Smelly apartment after a flood

[win-ho-lee]

Vox Humana wrote:
> "Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
> news:7MyDe.454838$cg1.338541@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>"Vox Humana" <vhumana@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:txRCe.24974$zY4.22946@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
>>
>>>"Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
>>>news:keQCe.441343$cg1.101131@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>>>I'd definitely remove all carpeting, wash whatever I could down with a
>>>>diluted bleach solution, and dehumidify. Give the weather where you
>
> are
>
>>>>opening windows just won't help. The AC is probably helping you out a
>>>>little, that does take some moisture out of the air. The landlord
>>
>>should
>>
>>>>pick up the bill so keep all receipts.
>>>>
>>>>Any repairs he needs to make to fix your apartment are a tax write off
>>
>>for
>>
>>>>him (only give him your receipts AFTER he's reimbursed you--he'll need
>>>
>>>those
>>>
>>>>receipts for his taxes). Don't be shy asking for the repair.
>>>
>>>
>>>The landlord also should have insurance that covers damage to the
>>
>>structure
>>
>>>from water leaks. Other than the deductible, there shouldn't be any
>>>tax-deductible expense.
>>>
>>
>>I have lived in MANY apartments (I had to travel for work and stay for 6
>
> or
>
>>so months at a time in different locations) and I can tell you if the
>>building is a 2 or 3 family owner-occupied home they WON'T have insurance
>>for these type of problems or they won't have sufficient insurance or they
>>won't want to file a claim because they are afraid of being dumped by
>
> their
>
>>insurance company.
>>
>>But you are right--real apartment buildings with competent management will
>>be insured, but they still need receipts for the claim.
>
>
> You are probably right, but in the end, it is the apartment owner's
> responsibility to provide a clean and safe dwelling. If a pipe broke and
> put several inches of water in the apartment, it needs more than a fan or
> dehumidifier. It really is no longer a "cleaning" issue. It is flood
> remediation problem and possibly a legal issue.
>
>
Let me see, you have an unlivable (cat) shit - hole, and you are afraid
to be kicked out of it? You can't clean it, you can't fix it, you can't
move; I'm surprised that you found the ability to type the message! Of
course you want a free service to come in! I want a free service to come
in and do all my commercial and residential cleaning accounts today! I
want a free service to come in and do my billing! I want a free service
to come in and cut my grass, too!
Perhaps leaving would be the best option. I'm sure that a free service
would pack and ship for you.

[Vox Humana]

"win-ho-lee" <whl@corrupt.gov> wrote in message
news:0Z6dnZ2dnZ3o3pe-nZ2dnYYrkN6dnZ2dRVn-zZ2dnZ0@taconic.net...
> Vox Humana wrote:
> > "Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
> > news:7MyDe.454838$cg1.338541@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> >>"Vox Humana" <vhumana@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:txRCe.24974$zY4.22946@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> >>
> >>>"Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:keQCe.441343$cg1.101131@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>>
> >>>>I'd definitely remove all carpeting, wash whatever I could down with a
> >>>>diluted bleach solution, and dehumidify. Give the weather where you
> >
> > are
> >
> >>>>opening windows just won't help. The AC is probably helping you out a
> >>>>little, that does take some moisture out of the air. The landlord
> >>
> >>should
> >>
> >>>>pick up the bill so keep all receipts.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any repairs he needs to make to fix your apartment are a tax write off
> >>
> >>for
> >>
> >>>>him (only give him your receipts AFTER he's reimbursed you--he'll need
> >>>
> >>>those
> >>>
> >>>>receipts for his taxes). Don't be shy asking for the repair.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>The landlord also should have insurance that covers damage to the
> >>
> >>structure
> >>
> >>>from water leaks. Other than the deductible, there shouldn't be any
> >>>tax-deductible expense.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I have lived in MANY apartments (I had to travel for work and stay for 6
> >
> > or
> >
> >>so months at a time in different locations) and I can tell you if the
> >>building is a 2 or 3 family owner-occupied home they WON'T have
insurance
> >>for these type of problems or they won't have sufficient insurance or
they
> >>won't want to file a claim because they are afraid of being dumped by
> >
> > their
> >
> >>insurance company.
> >>
> >>But you are right--real apartment buildings with competent management
will
> >>be insured, but they still need receipts for the claim.
> >
> >
> > You are probably right, but in the end, it is the apartment owner's
> > responsibility to provide a clean and safe dwelling. If a pipe broke
and
> > put several inches of water in the apartment, it needs more than a fan
or
> > dehumidifier. It really is no longer a "cleaning" issue. It is flood
> > remediation problem and possibly a legal issue.
> >
> >
> Let me see, you have an unlivable (cat) shit - hole, and you are afraid
> to be kicked out of it? You can't clean it, you can't fix it, you can't
> move; I'm surprised that you found the ability to type the message! Of
> course you want a free service to come in! I want a free service to come
> in and do all my commercial and residential cleaning accounts today! I
> want a free service to come in and do my billing! I want a free service
> to come in and cut my grass, too!
> Perhaps leaving would be the best option. I'm sure that a free service
> would pack and ship for you.

Yes, something was fishy with that one. If you look at the OP's posting
history you see that there was money and transportation for tattoos, etc.

[Mrs Bonk]

win-ho-lee wrote:
> Vox Humana wrote:
>> "Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:7MyDe.454838$cg1.338541@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>>> "Vox Humana" <vhumana@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:txRCe.24974$zY4.22946@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
>>>
>>>> "Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:keQCe.441343$cg1.101131@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>>>> I'd definitely remove all carpeting, wash whatever I could down with a
>>>>> diluted bleach solution, and dehumidify. Give the weather where you
>>
>> are
>>
>>>>> opening windows just won't help. The AC is probably helping you out a
>>>>> little, that does take some moisture out of the air. The landlord
>>>
>>> should
>>>
>>>>> pick up the bill so keep all receipts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any repairs he needs to make to fix your apartment are a tax write off
>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>>>> him (only give him your receipts AFTER he's reimbursed you--he'll need
>>>>
>>>> those
>>>>
>>>>> receipts for his taxes). Don't be shy asking for the repair.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The landlord also should have insurance that covers damage to the
>>>
>>> structure
>>>
>>>> from water leaks. Other than the deductible, there shouldn't be any
>>>> tax-deductible expense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have lived in MANY apartments (I had to travel for work and stay for 6
>>
>> or
>>
>>> so months at a time in different locations) and I can tell you if the
>>> building is a 2 or 3 family owner-occupied home they WON'T have
>>> insurance for these type of problems or they won't have sufficient
>>> insurance or they won't want to file a claim because they are afraid of
>>> being dumped by
>>
>> their
>>
>>> insurance company.
>>>
>>> But you are right--real apartment buildings with competent management
>>> will be insured, but they still need receipts for the claim.
>>
>>
>> You are probably right, but in the end, it is the apartment owner's
>> responsibility to provide a clean and safe dwelling. If a pipe broke and
>> put several inches of water in the apartment, it needs more than a fan or
>> dehumidifier. It really is no longer a "cleaning" issue. It is flood
>> remediation problem and possibly a legal issue.
>>
>>
> Let me see, you have an unlivable (cat) shit - hole, and you are afraid
> to be kicked out of it? You can't clean it, you can't fix it, you can't
> move; I'm surprised that you found the ability to type the message! Of
> course you want a free service to come in! I want a free service to come
> in and do all my commercial and residential cleaning accounts today! I
> want a free service to come in and do my billing! I want a free service
> to come in and cut my grass, too!
> Perhaps leaving would be the best option. I'm sure that a free service
> would pack and ship for you.

Rather harsh I feel but I am not fully aware of all circumstances. If the
person pays rent then surely it is not a free to have services come in and
make the place liveable, isn't that part of the landlord's obligations? I do
have some sympathy for this person - troll or not.

[Vox Humana]

"Mrs Bonk" <arse@cutey.com> wrote in message
news:3n7amkF5luoU1@individual.net...

>
> Rather harsh I feel but I am not fully aware of all circumstances. If the
> person pays rent then surely it is not a free to have services come in
and
> make the place liveable, isn't that part of the landlord's obligations? I
do
> have some sympathy for this person - troll or not.

I think the sympathetic answer is to get some legal advice. Since every
single option that was presented to this person was rejected, then I wonder
what their point was in posting this. They cited lack of transportation and
money, but if you read their posting history on Google, you see that there
is money and transportation for lots of recreational endeavors.

[win-ho-lee]

Mrs Bonk wrote:
> win-ho-lee wrote:
>
>>Vox Humana wrote:
>>
>>>"Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
>>>news:7MyDe.454838$cg1.338541@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Vox Humana" <vhumana@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:txRCe.24974$zY4.22946@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:keQCe.441343$cg1.101131@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd definitely remove all carpeting, wash whatever I could down with a
>>>>>>diluted bleach solution, and dehumidify. Give the weather where you
>>>
>>>are
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>opening windows just won't help. The AC is probably helping you out a
>>>>>>little, that does take some moisture out of the air. The landlord
>>>>
>>>>should
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>pick up the bill so keep all receipts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any repairs he needs to make to fix your apartment are a tax write off
>>>>
>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>him (only give him your receipts AFTER he's reimbursed you--he'll need
>>>>>
>>>>>those
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>receipts for his taxes). Don't be shy asking for the repair.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The landlord also should have insurance that covers damage to the
>>>>
>>>>structure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>from water leaks. Other than the deductible, there shouldn't be any
>>>>>tax-deductible expense.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have lived in MANY apartments (I had to travel for work and stay for 6
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>
>>>>so months at a time in different locations) and I can tell you if the
>>>>building is a 2 or 3 family owner-occupied home they WON'T have
>>>>insurance for these type of problems or they won't have sufficient
>>>>insurance or they won't want to file a claim because they are afraid of
>>>>being dumped by
>>>
>>>their
>>>
>>>
>>>>insurance company.
>>>>
>>>>But you are right--real apartment buildings with competent management
>>>>will be insured, but they still need receipts for the claim.
>>>
>>>
>>>You are probably right, but in the end, it is the apartment owner's
>>>responsibility to provide a clean and safe dwelling. If a pipe broke and
>>>put several inches of water in the apartment, it needs more than a fan or
>>>dehumidifier. It really is no longer a "cleaning" issue. It is flood
>>>remediation problem and possibly a legal issue.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Let me see, you have an unlivable (cat) shit - hole, and you are afraid
>>to be kicked out of it? You can't clean it, you can't fix it, you can't
>>move; I'm surprised that you found the ability to type the message! Of
>>course you want a free service to come in! I want a free service to come
>>in and do all my commercial and residential cleaning accounts today! I
>>want a free service to come in and do my billing! I want a free service
>>to come in and cut my grass, too!
>>Perhaps leaving would be the best option. I'm sure that a free service
>>would pack and ship for you.
>
>
> Rather harsh I feel but I am not fully aware of all circumstances. If the
> person pays rent then surely it is not a free to have services come in and
> make the place liveable, isn't that part of the landlord's obligations? I do
> have some sympathy for this person - troll or not.
>
>
My "free" tirade was in response to the posters wish that a free service
would come in and test for mold. We can all be assured that the poster
would not then pay to have the mold removed.

[win-ho-lee]

Vox Humana wrote:
> "Mrs Bonk" <arse@cutey.com> wrote in message
> news:3n7amkF5luoU1@individual.net...
>
>
>>Rather harsh I feel but I am not fully aware of all circumstances. If the
>>person pays rent then surely it is not a free to have services come in
>
> and
>
>>make the place liveable, isn't that part of the landlord's obligations? I
>
> do
>
>>have some sympathy for this person - troll or not.
>
>
> I think the sympathetic answer is to get some legal advice. Since every
> single option that was presented to this person was rejected, then I wonder
> what their point was in posting this. They cited lack of transportation and
> money, but if you read their posting history on Google, you see that there
> is money and transportation for lots of recreational endeavors.
>
>
Free legal advice, I'm sure. Could you go and do that for us?

[Mrs Bonk]

Vox Humana wrote:
> "Mrs Bonk" <arse@cutey.com> wrote in message
> news:3n7amkF5luoU1@individual.net...
>
>>
>> Rather harsh I feel but I am not fully aware of all circumstances. If the
>> person pays rent then surely it is not a free to have services come in
>> and make the place liveable, isn't that part of the landlord's
>> obligations? I do have some sympathy for this person - troll or not.
>
> I think the sympathetic answer is to get some legal advice. Since every
> single option that was presented to this person was rejected, then I
> wonder what their point was in posting this. They cited lack of
> transportation and money, but if you read their posting history on
> Google, you see that there is money and transportation for lots of
> recreational endeavors.
Goodness me, I can't trawl through hundreds of "big brother" posts to
confirm your story which I have no doubt is true anyway. It makes not a jot
of difference to my opinion. I have personal experience of unscrupulous
landlords who harass tenants on a whim and force them to vacate properties
for the street gutter. Perhaps the OP doesn't have a rent book or is not
registered in the country, maybe she is anxious to keep the landlord sweet
for fear of retribution because of previous landlord experiences, maybe she
has recently moved into the place and is in hiding, perhaps she is not all
there in the head and needs social services, there are many possibilities.
Let's not be too hard on the girl without knowing all.

[Mrs Bonk]

win-ho-lee wrote:
> Mrs Bonk wrote:
>> win-ho-lee wrote:
>>
>>> Vox Humana wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:7MyDe.454838$cg1.338541@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Vox Humana" <vhumana@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:txRCe.24974$zY4.22946@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rox" <roxanne.gray@att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:keQCe.441343$cg1.101131@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd definitely remove all carpeting, wash whatever I could down
>>>>>>> with a diluted bleach solution, and dehumidify. Give the weather
>>>>>>> where you
>>>>
>>>> are
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> opening windows just won't help. The AC is probably helping you
>>>>>>> out a little, that does take some moisture out of the air. The
>>>>>>> landlord
>>>>>
>>>>> should
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> pick up the bill so keep all receipts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any repairs he needs to make to fix your apartment are a tax write
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> him (only give him your receipts AFTER he's reimbursed you--he'll
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>
>>>>>> those
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> receipts for his taxes). Don't be shy asking for the repair.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The landlord also should have insurance that covers damage to the
>>>>>
>>>>> structure
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> from water leaks. Other than the deductible, there shouldn't be any
>>>>>> tax-deductible expense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have lived in MANY apartments (I had to travel for work and stay
>>>>> for 6
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> so months at a time in different locations) and I can tell you if the
>>>>> building is a 2 or 3 family owner-occupied home they WON'T have
>>>>> insurance for these type of problems or they won't have sufficient
>>>>> insurance or they won't want to file a claim because they are afraid
>>>>> of being dumped by
>>>>
>>>> their
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> insurance company.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you are right--real apartment buildings with competent management
>>>>> will be insured, but they still need receipts for the claim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are probably right, but in the end, it is the apartment owner's
>>>> responsibility to provide a clean and safe dwelling. If a pipe broke
>>>> and put several inches of water in the apartment, it needs more than a
>>>> fan or dehumidifier. It really is no longer a "cleaning" issue. It
>>>> is flood remediation problem and possibly a legal issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let me see, you have an unlivable (cat) shit - hole, and you are afraid
>>> to be kicked out of it? You can't clean it, you can't fix it, you can't
>>> move; I'm surprised that you found the ability to type the message! Of
>>> course you want a free service to come in! I want a free service to come
>>> in and do all my commercial and residential cleaning accounts today! I
>>> want a free service to come in and do my billing! I want a free service
>>> to come in and cut my grass, too!
>>> Perhaps leaving would be the best option. I'm sure that a free service
>>> would pack and ship for you.
>>
>>
>> Rather harsh I feel but I am not fully aware of all circumstances. If the
>> person pays rent then surely it is not a free to have services come in
>> and make the place liveable, isn't that part of the landlord's
>> obligations? I do have some sympathy for this person - troll or not.
>>
>>
> My "free" tirade was in response to the posters wish that a free service
> would come in and test for mold. We can all be assured that the poster
> would not then pay to have the mold removed.

I have no idea where the OP is living but I will say that if the Council is
her landlord they will without doubt come in and test for damp and rectify
the matter at no extra cost to the tenant, it is a service that is included
in the rent. If the furniture is damaged from living conditions then social
security may assist by providing new. I see no reason to think private
landlords should not do the same as the Council or Housing Associations but
I can understand the OP's reluctance in asking for the Landlord's help and I
also suspect she would be reluctant to ask in here for help again.