Rod Speed
09-23-2005, 07:54 AM
Spod Reed <rhalford1961@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Spod Reed <rhalford1961@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Picilli <feranija@net...> wrote
>>>>> Browsing web pages, I see everybody suggests bleach that
>>>>> contains sodium hypochlorite to sanitize sponge, utensils, to kill
>>>>> salmonella and other foodborne bacteria on a countertop, fridge
>>>>> handle, kitchen sink, especially after handling meat and poultry.
>>>>> Why only bleach ? OK, it may be an excellent sanitizer, but
>>>>> aren't 99% propanol or ethanol just as effective disinfectants ?
>>>>> Remembering chemistry lessons from school I
>>>>> don't think any bacteria will ever survive alcohol.
>>>>> There either must be some advantage of bleach over alcohol (price
>>>>> maybe), or once upon a time someone mentioned bleach and everybody
>>>>> is over and over again rewriting the same advice with bleach on
>>>>> their web pages, forgetting there are other effective sanitizers ?
>>>> It makes no sense to 'sanitize' the kitchen,
>>>> that just breeds better bugs.
>>> More Rod Speed bullshit.
>> We'll see...
> Yes we will, just keep reading.
No need, we've already seen you flaunt your complete pig ignorance.
>>> Bleach and alcohol do nothing of the sort.
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof
>> that you've never ever had a fucking clue.
> You're showing your ignorance. Keep up the good work.
>>> "Better bugs" are the result of antibiotics (triclosan for
>>> instance in a cleaning product) being used to kill bacteria.
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof
>> that you've never ever had a fucking clue.
> More ignorance. Keep going.
Any 2 year old could do better than that pathetic effort.
> (Damn, Rod just hates it when he's proven wrong)
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys.
>> ANYTHING that kills bugs breeds better bugs, fuckwit.
> Yeah right, like your shoe? Bwahahahahaha!
Yep, breeds whatever that can run
faster and avoid getting stomped, stupid.
>>> Bleach and alcohol kill bacteria and
>>> viruses by causing physical damage.
>> ANYTHING that kills bugs breeds better bugs, fuckwit.
> Wrong again. Why not be a MAN and admit you're mistaken?
No need, is hilarious watching you
furiously digging that hole you are in.
>>> Germs have no chance to develop
>>> antibiotic resistance to physical damage
>> Duh.
> Duh, but you're arguing about it.
Nope, I never said that using bleach breeds ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANCE.
I JUST said that anything the kills breeds better bugs while
ever you dont kill 100% of them. And bleach cant kill 100%
of them, otherwise hospitals would just use bleach. They dont.
> I guess that makes you the moron.
Guess again.
>>> and thus would not "breed better bugs".
>> ANYTHING that kills bugs breeds better bugs, fuckwit.
> What part of PHYSICAL DAMAGE are you having a problem with?
No part. That STILL breeds better bugs while ever you dont kill
100% of them, and you cant kill 100% of them in the kitchen.
> That's how disinfectants work, micro-organisms cannot build up a resistance
> to physical damage no matter how hard you try and prove otherwise.
Corse they can and do breed bugs harder to kill using disinfectants.
If it was as simple as you claim, you wouldnt see better
bugs bred in hospitals which use disinfectants, stupid.
> You are WRONG.
Nope.
> Deal with it dumbass.
Nothing to deal with, pig ignorant clown.
>> If it was anything like your stupid pig ignorant
>> claim, hospitals would use bleach and or alcohol
>> and would never see any better bugs bred.
> They use other disinfectants that work the same way as
> well as bleach (think ebola) and alcohol hand sanitizer.
Pity we see better bugs bred in hospitals anyway.
> We see better bugs bred through the use of anti-biological agents
> and their improper usage, not through the use of disinfecting agents.
Wrong again.
> "Quat-based disinfectants carry a positive charge. Bacteria, viruses
> and fungi carry a negative charge. When a bacteria-laden surface is
> sprayed or mopped with a disinfectant, the charge distribution of the
> bacteria cell changes from negative to positive. This results in the
> disruption of the bacteria cell wall and eventual death to the microbe."
Irrelevant how they kill if they dont kill 100%, stupid.
> You're wrong once again.
Nope. And not one single individual has actually
agreed with your terminally pig ignorant claim.
Funny that. Hilarious actually.
Keep digging, you'll be out in china any day now.
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Spod Reed <rhalford1961@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Picilli <feranija@net...> wrote
>>>>> Browsing web pages, I see everybody suggests bleach that
>>>>> contains sodium hypochlorite to sanitize sponge, utensils, to kill
>>>>> salmonella and other foodborne bacteria on a countertop, fridge
>>>>> handle, kitchen sink, especially after handling meat and poultry.
>>>>> Why only bleach ? OK, it may be an excellent sanitizer, but
>>>>> aren't 99% propanol or ethanol just as effective disinfectants ?
>>>>> Remembering chemistry lessons from school I
>>>>> don't think any bacteria will ever survive alcohol.
>>>>> There either must be some advantage of bleach over alcohol (price
>>>>> maybe), or once upon a time someone mentioned bleach and everybody
>>>>> is over and over again rewriting the same advice with bleach on
>>>>> their web pages, forgetting there are other effective sanitizers ?
>>>> It makes no sense to 'sanitize' the kitchen,
>>>> that just breeds better bugs.
>>> More Rod Speed bullshit.
>> We'll see...
> Yes we will, just keep reading.
No need, we've already seen you flaunt your complete pig ignorance.
>>> Bleach and alcohol do nothing of the sort.
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof
>> that you've never ever had a fucking clue.
> You're showing your ignorance. Keep up the good work.
>>> "Better bugs" are the result of antibiotics (triclosan for
>>> instance in a cleaning product) being used to kill bacteria.
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof
>> that you've never ever had a fucking clue.
> More ignorance. Keep going.
Any 2 year old could do better than that pathetic effort.
> (Damn, Rod just hates it when he's proven wrong)
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys.
>> ANYTHING that kills bugs breeds better bugs, fuckwit.
> Yeah right, like your shoe? Bwahahahahaha!
Yep, breeds whatever that can run
faster and avoid getting stomped, stupid.
>>> Bleach and alcohol kill bacteria and
>>> viruses by causing physical damage.
>> ANYTHING that kills bugs breeds better bugs, fuckwit.
> Wrong again. Why not be a MAN and admit you're mistaken?
No need, is hilarious watching you
furiously digging that hole you are in.
>>> Germs have no chance to develop
>>> antibiotic resistance to physical damage
>> Duh.
> Duh, but you're arguing about it.
Nope, I never said that using bleach breeds ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANCE.
I JUST said that anything the kills breeds better bugs while
ever you dont kill 100% of them. And bleach cant kill 100%
of them, otherwise hospitals would just use bleach. They dont.
> I guess that makes you the moron.
Guess again.
>>> and thus would not "breed better bugs".
>> ANYTHING that kills bugs breeds better bugs, fuckwit.
> What part of PHYSICAL DAMAGE are you having a problem with?
No part. That STILL breeds better bugs while ever you dont kill
100% of them, and you cant kill 100% of them in the kitchen.
> That's how disinfectants work, micro-organisms cannot build up a resistance
> to physical damage no matter how hard you try and prove otherwise.
Corse they can and do breed bugs harder to kill using disinfectants.
If it was as simple as you claim, you wouldnt see better
bugs bred in hospitals which use disinfectants, stupid.
> You are WRONG.
Nope.
> Deal with it dumbass.
Nothing to deal with, pig ignorant clown.
>> If it was anything like your stupid pig ignorant
>> claim, hospitals would use bleach and or alcohol
>> and would never see any better bugs bred.
> They use other disinfectants that work the same way as
> well as bleach (think ebola) and alcohol hand sanitizer.
Pity we see better bugs bred in hospitals anyway.
> We see better bugs bred through the use of anti-biological agents
> and their improper usage, not through the use of disinfecting agents.
Wrong again.
> "Quat-based disinfectants carry a positive charge. Bacteria, viruses
> and fungi carry a negative charge. When a bacteria-laden surface is
> sprayed or mopped with a disinfectant, the charge distribution of the
> bacteria cell changes from negative to positive. This results in the
> disruption of the bacteria cell wall and eventual death to the microbe."
Irrelevant how they kill if they dont kill 100%, stupid.
> You're wrong once again.
Nope. And not one single individual has actually
agreed with your terminally pig ignorant claim.
Funny that. Hilarious actually.
Keep digging, you'll be out in china any day now.