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[Muvin Gruvin]

is there a special method to painting a ceiling? I have painted the
bathroom with latex enamel since it is a bathroom & see numerous brush
strokes.

[0tterbot]

"Muvin Gruvin" <QTQTQT@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16321-43FD251A-102@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...
> is there a special method to painting a ceiling? I have painted the
> bathroom with latex enamel since it is a bathroom & see numerous brush
> strokes.

oh dear - you should always use a roller for large areas :-)

go round the edges with a brush first, as usual (you'll want 2 coats unless
it's the same colour) & then just use a roller for the rest (again, 2 coats
unless it's the same colour - or, of course, if it's one-coat ceiling paint,
one coat should do, funnily enough). be aware that rollers spatter
slightly - in the case of painting ceilings, you can spatter the walls by
accident much more easily than you might think, as well as the floor (so
keep the floor properly covered). keep a damp cloth handy & just wipe it off
the walls immediately if that happens (assuming water-based paint, of
course). in the case of doing a ceiling _and_ walls, just do the ceiling
first & the wall spatters are not an issue - you paint over them when doing
the walls.

besides the issue of spattering the walls, painting a ceiling is just the
same as a wall, the method is identical. it's just more physically demanding
& uncomfortable, that's all. same method, preparation, etc.

make sure not to overload the roller, because besides wanting to minimise
spatter, the coats should be thin and even.
kylie

[Mrs Bonk]

0tterbot wrote:
> "Muvin Gruvin" <QTQTQT@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:16321-43FD251A-102@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...
>> is there a special method to painting a ceiling? I have painted the
>> bathroom with latex enamel since it is a bathroom & see numerous brush
>> strokes.
>
> oh dear - you should always use a roller for large areas :-)

I always use a brush. I detest rollers. I don't have 'the knack' My SIL
uses nothing BUT a roller, he detests brushes. I tell him that I know of no
professional painter that uses a roller, not here anyway and he still
refuses to budge. He can paint a room in an hour but my daughter does the
edges - the harder part. I take all day but I do a far better job with no
mess and I use one brush for edges and middle so less cleaning.
Maybe the OP is using the wrong paint and the wrong brush, possibly a cheap
brush?
The easiest of the lot was a spray painting kit. I don't see it nowadays but
recall a painter at my works doing the walls with eggshell. It was a work of
art completed in minutes with no effort, no mess and extremely accurate. He
allowed me to do a bit for him it was a piece of cake. I wonder why that
method has not become popular.

[Sawney Beane]

Mrs Bonk wrote:
>
> 0tterbot wrote:
> > "Muvin Gruvin" <QTQTQT@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:16321-43FD251A-102@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...
> >> is there a special method to painting a ceiling? I have painted the
> >> bathroom with latex enamel since it is a bathroom & see numerous brush
> >> strokes.
> >
> > oh dear - you should always use a roller for large areas :-)
>
> I always use a brush. I detest rollers. I don't have 'the knack' My SIL
> uses nothing BUT a roller, he detests brushes. I tell him that I know of no
> professional painter that uses a roller, not here anyway and he still

Tell us about your sister-in-law's surgery!

> refuses to budge. He can paint a room in an hour but my daughter does the
> edges - the harder part. I take all day but I do a far better job with no
> mess and I use one brush for edges and middle so less cleaning.

You could work faster with a string mop.

> Maybe the OP is using the wrong paint and the wrong brush, possibly a cheap
> brush?

Use a good brush, get it soft by cutting in, use a paint with good
leveling, brush it on in one direction, then go over it at right angles.

> The easiest of the lot was a spray painting kit. I don't see it nowadays but
> recall a painter at my works doing the walls with eggshell. It was a work of
> art completed in minutes with no effort, no mess and extremely accurate. He
> allowed me to do a bit for him it was a piece of cake. I wonder why that
> method has not become popular.

Too many rules.

1.Hold the gun perpendicular to the target surface; that is, square
to the surface.
2.Always keep the gun at an equal distance to the surface.
3.Move the gun either across or up and down the surface at a steady
rate.
4.Move the gun at a consistant speed to conserve material and
provide even coverage.
5.The correct spraying speed allows a full wet coat of paint to be
applied without runs or sags.
6.The gun should be moved in a confident and flowing fashion
without hesitation.
7.If you lack experience, practice moving the gun over the surface
before you actually begin to paint.
8.Spray alternately from right to left and left to right.
9.Begin movement of the gun (about six inches) before you press the
trigger.
10.Release trigger before movement of the gun ceases. This prevents
sharp cut-off in the spray pattern.
11.Holding the gun closer to the surface deposits more paint on the
surface and produces a norrower spray pattern.
12.Holding the gun farther from the surface produces a thinner coat
and a wider spray pattern.
13.If runs, sags or excessive paint occur change to a spray tip
with a smaller orifice.
14.If the coverage looks too thin or you wish to spray faster
change to a tip with a larger orifice.
15.Proper overlapping of the spray pattern is essential for even
finish.
16.It is advisable to apply at least two coats so don't try and get
it perfect first time round.
17.Be sure to overlap each stroke.
18.When spraying horizontally, aim at the bottom edge of the
preceding stroke so as to overlap the previous stroke by 50%.
19.On a corner or edge split the center of the spray pattern and
spray vertically so that adjoining sections receive even amounts of
paint.
20.Avoid holding the gun at an angle, as this deposits paint
unevenly.
21.DO NOT swing the gun in an arc like movement as this results in
an uneven finish.
22.On exteriors, if conditions are windy angle the spray pattern
into the wind to avoid drifting.
23.Work from ground to roof.
24.Do not attempt to spray if the wind is excessive.
25.Whenspraying with a shield hold it firmly against the surface.
26.Angle the gun slightly away from the shield and towards the
target surface. This will prevent paint from being forced
underneath the shield.
27.Shrubs next to houses should be tied back and covered with
sheets. The sheets should removed as soon as possible.
28.A Gun Extension can be used to reach awkward areas.
29.Nearby vehicles should be moved or covered whenever in the
vicinity of a spray job.
30.Always be careful of any surrounding objects which may be
damaged by overspray.
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[Mrs Bonk]

Sawney Beane wrote:
> Mrs Bonk wrote:
>>
>> 0tterbot wrote:
>>> "Muvin Gruvin" <QTQTQT@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>> news:16321-43FD251A-102@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...
>>>> is there a special method to painting a ceiling? I have painted the
>>>> bathroom with latex enamel since it is a bathroom & see numerous brush
>>>> strokes.
>>>
>>> oh dear - you should always use a roller for large areas :-)
>>
>> I always use a brush. I detest rollers. I don't have 'the knack' My SIL
>> uses nothing BUT a roller, he detests brushes. I tell him that I know of
>> no professional painter that uses a roller, not here anyway and he still
>
> Tell us about your sister-in-law's surgery!

You will find a picture of him in your inbox Mr Beane. He is on stage and
dressed for the part.


>> refuses to budge. He can paint a room in an hour but my daughter does the
>> edges - the harder part. I take all day but I do a far better job with no
>> mess and I use one brush for edges and middle so less cleaning.
>
> You could work faster with a string mop.

But would it be as good a job?

>> Maybe the OP is using the wrong paint and the wrong brush, possibly a
>> cheap brush?
>
> Use a good brush, get it soft by cutting in, use a paint with good
> leveling, brush it on in one direction, then go over it at right angles.
>
>> The easiest of the lot was a spray painting kit. I don't see it nowadays
>> but recall a painter at my works doing the walls with eggshell. It was a
>> work of art completed in minutes with no effort, no mess and extremely
>> accurate. He allowed me to do a bit for him it was a piece of cake. I
>> wonder why that method has not become popular.
>
> Too many rules.
I have taken the rules or instructions out of the reply to shorten the post
a little. I say "pooey" - one could write a list of similar rules for a
paintbrush .
I imagine the equipment could easily be computerised if not done so already
to take into account distance and trigger pressure etc. and thereby give
nice even coverage. I am sure if i could master it in one minute and an
experienced user would have a field day doing a ceiling.