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05-14-2006, 01:47 AM
HOWEDY mike,

Mike wrote:

> Hi,

You mean 'HOWEDY Miserable Gang Of Lyin Dog Abusing
Punk Thug Cowards And Active Acute Chronic Long Term
Incurable Mental Cases Whe Jerk Choke Shock Bribe
Crate Intimidate Mutilate And Murder Innocent Defenseless
Dumb Critters An LIE abHOWET It," don't you, mike <{): ~ ) >

You AIN'T new here abHOWETS but The Freakin Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard would like to WELCOME HIS new readers from
gardenin an landscapin:

WELCOME To The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Forums.

I'm Jerry Howe, The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

Here's your own FREE COPY of The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE
WWW Wits' End Kat, Dog, Horse, Goat, Ferret, Child And SP-HOWES
Training Method Manual <{) : ~ } >

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> I live in the city and my lawn and other plantings
> are peed on several times daily by dogs.

And the plants LIKE that, mike? Is dog piss good for them, mike?

The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard got a BLACK THUMB and
has NO SKILLS for anything other than critters, children an
ladies on accHOWENT of:
A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

You GET The Critter You TRAINED

The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific
And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Safe Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Critters,
ALL OVER THE WHOWEL WILD WORLD,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual <{): ~ ) >

> A friend told me I need to buy a container of bear urine

Bears can be TRICKY to deal with, mike.

Where you gonna find a bear to buy it from, mike?
An HOWE do you know he won't just take your money
an rip you off like a professional dog trainer?

> and wolf urine,

LikeWIZE?

> then spray it on my lawn and plants.

You think they'll like THAT more than your own dog urine,
mike? You might find it EZier to find kat pee pee <{): ~ ) >

> When the dogs smell the urine they'll leave the area real quick.

Probably kat urine is the most offensive maybe
even moreso than pig piss, but you should judge
for yourself, after all, we're all individuals,
an NUTHIN works for everyWON, eh mike <{): ~ ( >

> Is that true?

Naaah, that's SHEER IDIOCY, just like the automatic sprinkler.
Dogs LOVE settin them off and sprayin themselves in summer.
janet thinks you should put up signs warnin the STUPID OWNERS.
You might put up signs sayin: "hey mike? DON'T LET YOUR DOGS
PISS ON THE PLANTS". But WE KNOW THAT AIN'T GONNA WORK, will
it, stupid owner.

The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard LIVES to HUMILIATE and
EMBARRASS ignorameHOWES dog abusing punk thug cowards like you
and the cretins you're asking for advice, mike.

Hey mike? janet boss lives near you, you might wanna
hire her to train your dog to lay off your garden?

LIKE THIS:

"Loop the lead (it's basically a GIANT nylon or leather
choke collar) over his snarly little head, and give him
a stern correction" --Janet Boss

"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@mb-m18.aol.com...

> He was next to me and I could see his neck
> muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye.
> Janet Boss
>
"sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@mb-m17.aol.com...
> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher
> > > than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> > > dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> > I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

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Wolves are Canines and have been known to breed with dogs even
in the wild.Bears are PREYED on by dogs, hence Karilean Bear Dog <{): ~
) >

> What can I use short of a fence to keep
> dogs off my lawn and away from my plants?

Oh, that's EZ, mike. You can PERIMETER train them
in MINUTES. You can train ANY dog to not touch ANY
THING in SECONDS if you understand effective non
physical scientific Pavlovian and Ericksonian
CONDITIONING, mike.

Trainin your dogs an kats to lay off your flHOWERS
AIN'T NO DIFFERENT than trainin them not to eat kat
poop or steal from the table or raid your garbage bin
or chase furry woodslands critters or chew shoes or
ANY undesirable behavior.

LIKE THIS:

Subject: to Jerry Howe
From: MArtog - view profile
Date: Wed, Jan 17 2001 12:51 pm
Email: MArtog <mar...@my-deja.com>

Just wanted to say thanks. The method you told me to stop
my dog from eating my other Labs sh-t in the backyard has
worked well.

She has also improved greatly when off leash out in the woods.
She still sniffs (of course), but I rarely need to stop her
from anything else.

I've always been diligent about watching her, and cleaning
up the yard, but ya just can't be there every second. And
she is quick! So, thanks again for the advice.

I feel more confident now when I turn my back.

And to all you folks going yea, sure, right.

THIS IS NOT A TROLL POST. HE gave me advice.

It worked. Plain and simple. Nothing more, nothing less.

So Jerry, allthough I don't lurk here, I'm sure
you're still putting up with DogButt and his ilk.

So good keep up the good work!

Off course DogButt will read this, even thoe it doesn't
have his name on it. Cause he thinks he owns the group.

So to you DogButt.........Well,,,,never mind.

You're already a loser. I don't need to tell you that.

Please feel free to correct my spelling/grammer, etc.
Yes, goodbye, good riddance, blah blah blah.

Later.....
MArtog

From: MArtog
Date: Thurs, Jan 18 2001 7:51 am
Email: MArtog <mar...@my-deja.com>

In article <3A65FE5F.70D8D...@Rosenblatt.com>,

Jos...@Rosenblatt.com wrote:
> Ummm OK
> and if you didn't want Dog'butt' or anyone else to
> raad it.. why didn't you just email Jerry your thanks?
> I smell a rat....
> Bye Bye

Last reply/post from me just to explain to Joshua.
Then I'm outta here(yippee).

No I was not trying to TROLL. I wanted to post a thank
you to Jerry. That's it. Never said I didn't want anyone
else to read it. I did say that I knew DogButt would read
it even thoe it wasn't for him. He thinks everything in
here is his business. So he had to post some childish
response because he can't help it. He is sooo predictable.

He will read this too and again post a childish response.
If he doesn't, it will show a strength of will that I don't
believe he has.

Not trying to be a rat or anything else. I clearly said what
I wanted to say about Jerry's help with my dog problem.

It is sad that this group is still so antagonistic all the time.

There is a lot of knowledge here, but it is rarely disseminated
in a kindly manner. Most newbies get ran off in fairly short order,
and go over to r.p.d.breeds where people are much freindlier.

Seems like most posters in here have been around each other too long.

Some sort of internet cabin fever or something (IMHO).

Anyway, I won't be reading your's or DogButt's reply. So feel
free to go at each other's throats as usual,flame me and my
post, whatever.

Again, thanks Jerry and all of you have a nice day......

well except you DogButt!

Maybe Jerry can help you stop eating sh-t!
BYE!

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AND LIKE THIS:

From: "lindalee" <llindaleedan...@msn.com>
Date: 21 Jan 2006 18:34:10 -0800

Subject: Chasing squirrels

I have not posted to the group for awhile but want to share my success
of teaching my dog Sunshine, who has a very high prey drive, to not go
after squirrels when on a walk. It took a few trials but he can now
walk right past squirrels running up a tree or in a yard.

Using Jerry Howe's approach I used a sound to get his attention when
he saw a squirrel and then praised him and kept on walking past the
squirrel. Where we live in Michigan we lots of squirrels and he was
always wanting to chase them up a tree. Jerry's approach of sound
and praise really works.

I think the people who discount his methods have never tried the
method because it works everytine. Sometimes it takes a little
practice to get the sound from different directions but I was able to
change Sunshine's behavior in just a week after we moved back to
Michigan.

Sunshine is a very sensitive dog so any physical corrections just won't

work but using sound and praise he is a really great dog who opens
doors, picks up things I drop, and and helps me a lot. If you have a
behavior problem with your dog get a copy of Jerrry's manual and
solve your problem!

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OR LIKE THIS:

Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p...@cfl.rr.com
To: Witsend...@aol.com

Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.

My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I used
this system on four different occasions.

When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.

I will write to Amanda about the video.

I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.

Thanks again
Paul

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AND LIKE THIS:

From: Momi...@webtv.net (misty)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:29:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?

Beth wrote:
> So, jerry's techniques didnt' work for Peach?

Never had a chance to try them on her... I was still
using the e-fence and chains to keep her in the yard.

The suggestions I received here to keep Peach home were:
build a fence... wasn't going to happen.. we plan on
putting a modular home here within the next few years...
put more fence at the top of the pen I used so both dogs
could play bitey face w/o tangling, and similar suggestions.

Jerry was the only one to mention border training... but he
was kook supreme ;-P So I ignored him... no killfiles with
webtv.. at that time Jerry had his own troll, somewhat like
Candace, so the group was not very conducive to learning anything.

At one point I even b*tched about Jerry.

By the time I tried out Jerry's manual Peach had already
ran away.

Not very good at the google groups search but you'll find my
first post at "runaway dog message 30" within that thread
is mention of the dogs taking off and being gone for 2 days.
I stopped posting for a bit... my middle boy was devastated
that his dog was gone... Zelda came home but not her mom.

The next few posts from me were ones about/to Jerry.

Then Jerry made the WETM accessible for webbes, I put it
in my e-mail (no storage otherwise on webby unless you put
stuff on a webpage) and read it, read it and read it.

Once I understood what the concept was, I implemented it
on Zelda. It worked and I now have a great housedog!

I only regret that my own distrust of Jerry caused me to
lose another wonderful dog. Peach was an absolute gem with
little kids. I and my boys still miss her. Sometimes I
still look to see if she came home when we get back from trips.

Maybe Peach would still have ran away... I don't know
and never will....

~misty

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From: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:16:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?

Peach would be there sittin pretty had our pals not given
you a bum steer cause they're EMBARRASSED and AFRAID of
losing their careers and reputations....

Stick around, we're just startin to have FUN learning and
sharing...J;~)
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"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message news

I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's
not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her
loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of
how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea
that my using a shock collar could have any bearing on
Peach not wanting to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern had been
keeping my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g>
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.

IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

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misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message

We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two
dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.

Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come
back in the yard and would run for days.

The last time, Peach didn't come back home.

I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train
my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day
reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.

She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around
the yard.

I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
then you need to train your dog.

I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog
in our yard again.

The price was too high:-( ~misty

--------------------------------

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message

Hi Cathy!

Yes I used The Wits End Method to train my girl, Zelda.
You can check the archives and see I'm a real person..

I post in misc.kids.breastfeeding, alt.cats rec.pets.cats.annecdotes
(not lately, my kitty died) rec.pets.dogs.behavior rec.pets.birds and
a ton of webtv firewalled ngs.

Zelda and her mom, Peach (RB) both loved to run the
neighborhood with my neighbors 2 male dogs. An e-fence
couldn't keep them home, chains pulled up and Peach could
jump/climb a 5 ft. fence.

I wrote in here for advice and felt like Jerry had jumped
down my throat. Upon re-reading his post to me..well..it
hit home hard that I was being abusive to my dog.

The thought of shocking my dog ever again makes me
want to puke.

Like I've said before... I might not like the way Jerry
treats some of the other posters but he gave me ( for _free_)
a way to teach myself and my dog.

I can let Zelda outside and not worry that a potty break
will mean she'll be gone for 2 days or, worse yet, not ever
come home...like her mom.

Zelda stopped chewing everything in sight once I started
applying Jerry's methods. One time of "bad slipper!" and
she never chewed another one up :-D

I don't post here a lot because I don't ave any problems
needing solved. I do join in occasionally or post informative
lnks. I just feel that my limited experience precludes me
from jumping in every thread <shrug> but I do read all of them.

If you want my phone number, e-mail me. We would have to
set up a time because I'm on the webbie a lot and we only
have 1 phone line.

~misty

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"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message

You can check Google for my posting history... here,
breeds, cats, kids and birds... and I have a dog who
doesn't : chew inappropriate items , jump on people,
counter-surf, be aggressive, bark too much, get in
the garbage no matter what yummy morsel is waiting,
can be left overnight in the house w/o pottying or
any of the above... no, she has no titles other than
beloved pet.. but that is enough for me.

Yes, some dogs are just good dogs but... Zelda used
to destroy stuff..kids toys, stuffed animals, shoes,
and even my pillow. She would pee in the house.
She would go on barking jags because the neighbor's
dogs were barking.

Byusing Jerry's manual I worked things out... I got
rid of the crate and put the kibosh on plans of getting
another shock collar (for e-fence) and had a plan to
follow which trained Zelda to stay in her yard and not
go roaming with her buddies.

Zelda came ito my life as a 3-4 month old pup who
lived outside, ran free and had never been inside.

We adopted her and then her mom, spayed both and
tried to cope with one dog who refused to stay home...
jumped fences, broke chains and finally chewed off
collar to be able to go go go.

Peach didn't come back the last time.

Zelda started out running off with her mm and
her buddies.. she continued to do so until I
did the step by step plan Jerry's manual outlines.

She stays home... she doesn't chew up stuff
and she is 1000% housebroken.

Again.. Jerry might be "crazy" but his
methods work and they are free...

~misty

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AND LIKE THIS:

From: Nevyn (greatd...@badmama.com.au)
Subject: Re: radio fence
Date: 2003-11-05 04:17:45 PST

Hi folks,

In my opinion the use of a radioshock fence is a waste of
time, effort or money. I can understand it if you a rich snob
who cares nothing about their dogs safey or behaviours.

At work I boundary train all the dogs to the bricked area
(Four kennels with 26 cages with 1 dog in each, 1 services
building and 2 catterys which is surrounded by scrubland to
the east and woodlands to the north and a lake to the west).

This works well, because then when people buy them the dogs
are easier to boundary train to a door or fence or yard.

However on a personal note, my two shelter mutts, who I
trained using the WITS END DOG MANUAL available at
www.doggydoright.com will not go past the back door, or the
back gate or the front gate without permission.

And it is nice, for when you are having a party, you can leave
your gates open for people, and your dogs won't be the least
concerned.

I find this better then spending your well earned money on a
piece of junk Why not use it to invest in a horse? Or a new
house? Make a nice aquarium? Build a nursery for a child?

Save your money. Train your dog. Please. -- Thankyou,
Nevyn


Nevyn E.D. Veterinary Nurse & Animal Trainer
greatd...@badmama.com.au
"You can judge a man's heart by his treatment
of animals"
__________________________________

AND LIKE THIS:

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaul_bou...@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Fence Jumping

Date: 2000-09-29 04:33:37 PST

Been well experienced in dogs escaping from our
yard I know exactly the frustration you are going
through. Sam used to jump over the fence so I
made it higher then we got Roz and she went
under it, through it and climbed over it.

I've decided there are only 2 ways to stop the escaping,
1 is to have an escape proof fence, the other to train the
dogs not to want to escape.

I suppose a third method is to keep them
inside but I don't consider that a solution.

Making the fence escape proof can be almost impossible
if the dog is determined, to stop it climbing over as yours
is doing put an extension on top of the fence that angles
inwards at about 30-45 degrees. Never use chicken wire
as the dogs tear through that like paper.

The only training method to prevent this I can recall is
Jerry's technique, essentially it involves walking around the
perimeter of the fenced area with the dog and using sound
distractions and praise to teach the dog it's boundary.

I have had partial success with it (i.e. I have deterred Roz
from escaping from various points along the fence) but then
again I haven't really followed it through completely.

One last glimmer of hope, as the dog gets older it may
become more settled, Sam never escapes now although
he's quite capable of getting out, he 2.5 years old and
seemed to settle at about 2. So there you are, only 1.5
years of escaping left!!!

Paul.

> Thanks,

Disciple Paul explains once again, in his Letters To The Cretins:

I use sound to distract the dog and praise it immediately.

The reason for the immediate praise is that as soon as the
dog is distracted it's no longer thinking of the inappropriate
behaviour so the praise reinforces the "not doing" the unwanted
behaviour.

I use various sound sources, a soda can with stones in it,
car keys, click my fingers, etc. Varying the direction of
the sound each time is important too, otherwise the dog may
begin to anticipate the sound and it will lose it's effect,
if the noise direction is random the dog won't get too familiar
with it and it will remain an effective distraction.

Remember too that we aren't trying to scare the bejesus
outta the dog, simply breaking it's train of thought while
it's thinking of the unwanted behaviour.

Sometimes you won't even see a reaction but the dog will
have been distracted fleetingly. (Recently one of my dogs
started habitually licking my feet while I was watching TV,
I clicked my fingers on her left side and told her "good girl"
even though she only paused her licking briefly, next I
clicked over her right side and praised, by about the 4th
repeat she suddenly stopped, I repeated this over a few
nights and now she doesn't lick any more, on the few
occasions she absent mindedly licks now ll I do is click
and praise and she immediately stops).

Timing is important too, learn to anticipate when the dog
is thinking about doing the "dirty deed" and distract and
praise then, with any luck the dog will try again almost
immediately so distract and praise again, if the timing is
correct after about the 4th rep the dog will stop.

I could go on but this post is long enough already,
remember too that the dog isn't being a "bad dog",
it's behaviour is simply inappropriate for the circumstances.

Happy training, :-)

Paul

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> From: Don Fitz [mailto:donfit...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 11:53 a.m.
> To: Ama...@DCFWatch.com; paulbou...@clear.net.nz
> Subject: Jerry Howe
> Hi,
> Jerry uses your email in his posts and I was wondering
> what you have to say of his training methods.

From: "Paul Bousie" <paulbou...@clear.net.nz>
To: "'Don Fitz'" <donfit...@hotmail.com>; <Ama...@DCFWatch.com>
Cc: <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: Jerry Howe

If you have read the newsgroup posts then you must
already have a good idea about what I think.

His methods are the best I have come across. They
aren't a quick fix but an entire training concept so if
you aren't in for the long haul then don't bother. If
you go his way then you have to forget all the other
gibberish that other people spew, you have to believe
in what you are doing, then and only then will you get
the results.

You can't combine his methods with other training
methods, not until you understand what you are
trying to achieve, and even then I have only ever
combined about 2 other trainers ideas and even
then just a snip of what they suggest which works
in parallel with the Wits End concept.

His methods make you as the trainer completely
responsible for your actions, his methods make
you think and work out your own solutions for
any given situation, the default (the recall) is
always there to get things under control again.

His ideas and concepts teach you to work with
the dog, to develop a team and a willingness to
work together which is surely the best way to be.
is methods don't use force or intimidation but
they do totally emphasize the absolute importance
of pack (family pack) structure, without that you
can achieve almost nothing.

If you are wondering how a dog can be trained
without any negativity the answer lies in the recall,
anytime your dog doesn't follow through with a
request you call him / her to you, since the recall
is the first thing taught and it is taught in such a
way it becomes a reflex the dog always returns
to you, it is a subordinate position for the dog and
we release it by asking for a "heel" which is an
"equal" position.

His methods are very good, his understanding of
dogs is excellent, I recommend his methods.

Paul Bousie

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"Paul B" <pand...@zfree.co.nz> wrote in message

news:3c2ae204@clear.net.nz...

Bollocks, the manual has no dangerous suggestions at
all, people who find the manual useful are those that
don't need to control a dog to satisfy their own ego
but simply want a well behaved dog that is easy to
live with. I would suggest the people who follow the
advice in his manual are people who have already
tried other inefficient methods and are fed up with
the poor results.

The more I think about the methods he suggests the
more sense it makes, the biggest problem is people
believe they have to be in control of the dog, tell it
whats right and wrong, dogs don't understand
our values and I don't believe they are capable of
understanding them either, so to train them we use
methods they understand. That means abstract
training, doing sometimes what appears to
almost be the opposite of what makes sense to us.

If you are purely result orientated then you will not
find Jerry's manual much use, if you love your dogs
and love to work WITH them then his manual is
your dream come true. Distraction and praise works
with any dog, when you sit back and really think about
it, it's very obvious why.

When a dog is properly distracted (and praised) of a
particular behaviour then that behaviour very quickly
becomes unfulfilling so the dog will no longer have any
interest in pursuing it, whether we are about or not,
thats the key to stopping garbage can raids and food
stealing etc etc, no force, no bad dog, just distracting it
in an appropriate manner that it no longer wishes to
pursue that behaviour.

Better than hiding the garbage can eh?

Paul
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Subject: Re: Get off the bed... please?

Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbou...@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Good dogs!!! bad dogs.??
Date: 2000/10/21

Something occurred this morning that made me think how
we treat our dogs and what expectations we have of them.

Because it was a Saturday we slept in and the dogs
eventually jumped up on the bed on my wife's side. After
a brief greeting she very abruptly demanded they get down,
"OFF THE BED" she insisted, Sam looked at her perplexed,
so she repeated the "order", so Sam tried to lick her face,
"GET OFF" she said abruptly.

Sam got down but was unsure what he had done wrong. After
a bit they both came over and jumped up on my side, I patted
them etc and eventually asked them to get down, "off the bed,
good dogs" and they hopped off immediately with no prob's.

Eileen asked me why they obey me and not her so easily.
I told her they got down for me because I asked them to,
they know the command "off the bed" or "off anything" so
there is no need to demand it of them, ask them and they
will comply, demand it and they get confused because
they think you are annoyed with them but they don't know
why so they try to "make amends" which is why Sam licked her.

I have found giving dogs "payment" in advance i.e. "Sam
sit goodboy" makes the dogs want to respond, after all, all
dogs want to be "good dogs" and if you tell them they are
good then they feel an obligation to obey your request.

Telling Sam he's a good dog after he sit's apart from been too
late is also a gamble because if he doesn't sit then there's
no positive interaction. Trust your dog, ask it to do your
request and say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the request
and I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding
everytime.

Paul

---------------

From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry

------------------

"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
news:

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
have the people stop until he could get in control using
treats, and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when
I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."

*(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 months!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!

Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

================================

From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

----------------------------------

But YOU DIDN'T LIKE THAT, did you, mike. You'd PREFER
to jerk choke shock bribe crate intimidate mutilate
and punish your dog and go chasin after a bear or wolf
to tinkle for you. Wouldn't you, mike:

From: The Annals Of Human And Animal Behavior Forensic Sciences
Research Laboratory

From: Mike
Subject: Dog Whisperer Book Recommendations?
Date: Sun, Apr 23 2006 4:54 pm

Please reply again after you've taken your anti-psychotic medications.

---------------

BWEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!!

Hey mike? You might wanna buy your dog some Kong Toys an STUFF
'EM like the self proclaimed EXXXPERTS like dr. ian dunbar
and his association of professional dog trainers (a.p.d.t.)
and certified pet dog trainers (c.p.d.t.), the pathetic
Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And Active
Acute Chronic Long Term Incurable Mental Cases like captain
arthur haggerty US Army K-9 Corps, Retired recommend:

captain arthur haggerty SEZ: "A CHIN CHUCK" Makes A
ResoundingSound Distraction: "When You Chuck The Dog
The Sound Will Travel Up The Mandible To The Ears And
Give A Popping Sound To The Dog."

and his ilk, like sgt. grant teeboon, RAAF K-9 Corps,
thief, fraud and dog murderer:

"Reliable Punishment Cycles, Different Thresholds To Pain
And Punishment, High Tolerance For Correction, Escalation
Of Correction To A Level Where The Dog Yelps When You Punish
Him, Thus Making The Experience One Which The Dog Will Want
To Avoid In The Future," grant teeboon, RAAF.

and their civilian counterparts like we got right here:

"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My
Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My
Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into
Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And
Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sinofabitch.

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to
it. When he barks, use the line for a correction.-
if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar," Lynn K.

"Training is not confrontation,"Lynn K.

<except when it is>

"Unfortunately, some confrontation is necessary,
just to be able to handle the dogs. For example,
we need to crate train a dog immediately because
they are usually in need of medical care and they
are in foster homes with other dogs. It's a safety
necessity," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

"Training is not confrontation,"Lynn K.

<except when it is>

"So what? Whoever said that it's right to
always not confront? We sure can try, but
a dog who knows a command and growls when
given it is certainly being confrontational".
You can't simply walk away and pretend it
didn't happen or leave it for later work in
every situation." Lynn K.

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is
A Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It." mike duforth,
author: "CourteHOWES Canine."

"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?

When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time,
spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk
away. The dog won't be too thrilled with this but just
ignore him and continue your normal behavior."
--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"CourteHOWES Canines"

<{): ~ ( >

Here's dr. ian dunbar on DIGGIN:

© 2004 Ian Dunbar

DIGGING
Dogs dig to bury bones, and later to dig them up again.
Dogs dig cooling hollows in the summer, and warming pits
in the winter. Dogs dig after eavesdropping on private
ultrasonic conversations of subterranean critters.

Bitches dig dens when they are pregnant. Dogs dig out
of boredom, and dogs dig to escape. But by and large,
most dogs dig for the sheer fun of it.

Dogs Don't See Your Problem
Dogs consider digging to be a perfectly normal and
natural doggy activity. In fact, terriers consider
digging to be their very reason for being. It would
therefore be fruitless to try to stop your dog from
digging altogether. Prevention and treatment of
digging focus on management and education: preventing
your dog from digging in inappropriate areas and
redirecting your dog's natural digging-desire to a
suitable area.

Prevent Digging in Your Absence

When you are away from home, keep your dog indoors. When
you are at home, try your best to accompany your dog outdoors
to supervise and teach garden rules.

Housesoiling, destructive chewing, and hyperactivity are the
most common reasons why dogs are relegated to unsupervised,
solitary confinement in the yard, where they predictably learn
to bark, dig, and escape, and become over-excited whenever let
indoors. Consequently, it is important to housetrain and chewtoy-
train your dog. (See our Housetraining and Destructive Chewing
booklet.)

Teach your dog to settle down calmly and quietly indoors, and
to sit when greeting visitors (see HyperDog! blueprint). Then
your dog may remain safely indoors whether you are home or not.
Your air-conditioned and centrally-heated house is the safest
and most comfortable place for your dog to spend the day.

When you are at home, go outside and enjoy your garden with your
dog. Some dogs dig to escape because they cannot bear the boredom
and anxiety of solitary confinement in the yard. Escaping is
exceedingly dangerous for your dog's health. So if you decide to
leave your dog in the yard, make the yard more interesting and be
sure to fix the fence.

Also make sure your dog has a cool resting place in the summer
and warmth in the winter. Teach your dog to dissipate digging
energy with other activities. Make sure your dog is well exercised
psychologically as well as physically) and entertained, and thus
has no need to dig to escape from the yard.

Teach recreational diggers to become recreational chewers.

If your dog is busying himself with a chewtoy, he has little
time to dig. Consequently, chewtoys stuffed with breakfast
kibble are the best objects to leave indoors, or to bury in
your dog's digging pit. You must teach your dog how to entertain
himself outdoors. This means your dog needs chewtoys outside, too.

Redirect Digging to a Digging Pit

Since you consider your dog's choice of digging locations to be
inappropriate, choose a location to your liking and teach your
dog to dig there. Build your dog a digging pit (much like a child's
sandbox) in a suitable corner of the yard.

Bury a cow's femur (the whole thing) in your dog's digging pit.
Your little doggie will be utterly delighted when she finds a
huge meaty bone. Now, this single simple procedure may not totally
prevent holes in other areas of the garden, but your dog will now
be much more inclined to dig in her digging pit. I mean, in 1849
everyone started rushing westwards to California.

They didn't rush to New Jersey. And why did they rush to California?

Because one person discovered a nugget of gold at Sutter's Mill.

They didn't find gold in New Jersey, and so they didn't rush to
New Jersey. And so it is with dogs. After just one remarkable find,
your dog will prefer to excavate in that California corner-her
digging pit, where she once found something very worth finding.

Every morning, fill several chewtoys with your dog's breakfast
kibble and bury them in her digging pit. Your dog will discover
that the digging pit is a virtual treasure trove where she can
find toys for sustenance and entertainment.

Garden Rules

Once the dog's digging activities have been redirected to a suitable
location in your yard, you might consider protecting other parts of
the garden. Lay down chicken wire or chain-link fencing over the lawn
and flower beds, add plenty of topsoil, and reseed.

Use boundary fences to partition the yard into doggy and non-doggy
zones. The fences are not meant to be dog proof; rather, they are
used as training aids to clearly demarcate lawn and garden boundaries
to help you teach the rules. Always try to accompany your dog when he
goes outside, especially during puppyhood or the first few months an
older dog is at home. Remember, an owner in the yard is worth two in
front of the television! It is not fair to keep garden rules a secret
from your dog and then get angry with the dog for breaking rules he
didn't even know existed. Encourage and praise your dog for walking
on paths and for lying down in dog zones.

Tie a number of stuffed chewtoys to ground stakes or hang them from
tree branches in dog zones to encourage your dog to want to spend
time in those areas. Discourage your dog from entering non-doggy zones.

If you require a more detailed description, read our Digging booklet
and watch the Training The Companion Dog Video II: Behavior Problems
& Household Etiquette.

To teach your dog to use a digging pit, you will need numerous
stuffable chewtoys and some freeze-dried liver treats.

------------

So you see mike, THAT'S HOWE COME The Freakin Simply
Amazing Puppy wizard can get HOWET sayin what HE SEZ
abHOWET the professional dog trainin and behaviorist
INDUSTRY, eh mike???

BWEEEEAAAAHAAHHAHAHAAAAA!!!

The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

"A cheerful heart is good medicine,
but a crushed spirit dries up the bones".
Proverbs 17:22

Blessed are all who take refuge in HIM.

Jerry 21 And unto this people thou shalt say,
Thus saith the LORD Of DOG;
Behold, I set before you
The Way Of Life,
And
The Way Of Death.

And Disciple Paulie said unto them, Thus shall ye
say to your master, Thus saith The LORD Of DOG,
Be not afraid of the words which thou hast heard,
with which the servants of koehler and university
trained behaviorists and veterinary malpracticioners
have blasphemed me.

Disciple Paulie Sez:

"No One Understands How Wits End Training Really
Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And don't
Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With
Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built On Trust
And Understanding.

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good
dog" sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll
find your dog thinking then responding everytime.
A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
everyone would have obedient dogs.

I have found giving dogs "payment" in advance i.e. "Sam
sit goodboy" makes the dogs want to respond, after all,
all dogs want to be "good dogs" and if you tell them they
are good then they feel an obligation to obey your request.

Telling Sam he's a good dog AFTER he sit's apart from
been too late is also a gamble because if he doesn't
sit then there's no positive interaction.
Paul

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace,
but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,
and the daughter against her mother,
the daughter in law against her mother in law
and the scholar against his professors.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own HOWEshold."
The Puppy Prophet <{); ~ ) >

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer

"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts
and minds will follow,"
John Wayne.

Yours,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092

The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{YPW) ; ~ } >
oo-oo

Mike
05-14-2006, 01:48 AM
> What can I use short of a fence to keep
> dogs off my lawn and away from my plants?

>Oh, that's EZ, mike. You can PERIMETER train them
?in MINUTES. You can train ANY dog to not touch ANY
>THING in SECONDS if you understand effective non
>physical scientific Pavlovian and Ericksonian
>CONDITIONING, mike.

T>rainin your dogs an kats to lay off your flHOWERS
>AIN'T NO DIFFERENT than trainin them not to eat kat
>poop or steal from the table or raid your garbage bin
>or chase furry woodslands critters or chew shoes or
>ANY undesirable behavior.

I don't own a dog. I want to keep all dogs and cats away from my lawn
and plants. I believe you know a lot about correcting dog behavior but
I can't read your posts. Some would say you're very selfish because you
refuse to
post rereadable ie coherent message.

Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Resear
05-14-2006, 11:03 AM
HOWEDY mike,

Mike wrote:
> > What can I use short of a fence to keep
> > dogs off my lawn and away from my plants?

You could do like HOWE The Freakin Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard did to keep his neighbor's dogs off
of shittin all over HIS front lawn an knockin over
the garbage barrel. It took just a couple instances
of observin them approachin and HE just FOLLOWED
THE TECHNIQUE HE TEACHES in HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual <{): ~ ) >

> > Oh, that's EZ, mike. You can PERIMETER train them
> > in MINUTES. You can train ANY dog to not touch ANY
> > THING in SECONDS if you understand effective non
> > physical scientific Pavlovian and Ericksonian
> > CONDITIONING, mike.
>
> > Trainin your dogs an kats to lay off your flHOWERS
> > AIN'T NO DIFFERENT than trainin them not to eat kat
> > poop or steal from the table or raid your garbage bin
> > or chase furry woodslands critters or chew shoes or
> > ANY undesirable behavior.

JUST LIKE HOWE The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard
TRAINED HIS next door neighbor's dog not to chase cars.
Of curse, HE had to set HOWET front for a couple mornins
to address the issue pupperly and EXXXTINGUISH IT NEARLY
INSTANTLY JUST LIKE HOWE IT SEZ in HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

> I don't own a dog.

NO PROBLEMO, mike. You can TRAIN THEM JUST LIKE HOWE The
Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard TRAINED HIS OTHER
neighbor's dogs not to come through the hole in his fence
or bark cry whine and fight, witHOWET EVER havin to touch
them AT ALL, mike <{): ~ ) >

> I want to keep all dogs and cats away from my lawn and plants.

You can do THAT in just a couple minutes if you know HOWE, mike.

> I believe you know a lot about correcting dog behavior

"Correcting" would imply there was sumpthin WRONG with
the critters behavior, mike. Dogs kats an kids DON'T DO
BAD BEHAVIORS mike, they do NORMAL NATURAL INNATE REFLEXIVE
DOGGY KITTY and KID behaviors which we can MODIFY, put on
CUE (train) or EXXXTINGUISH NEARLY INSTANTLY if you know
HOWE, mike <{): ~ ) >

> but I can't read your posts.

Don't even think abHOWET TRYIN to BULLSHIT The Freakin
Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard, mike. You WON'T FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS on accHOWENT of you're a natural born dog
and child and sp-HOWES abusing punk thug coward, mike.

> Some would say you're very selfish because you
> refuse to post rereadable ie coherent message.

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST to The Freakin Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Forums, mike.

All you gotta do is read a couple of posts and you
all you gotta do is study your own FREE COPY of The
Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual to GET your own 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANT SUCCESS but you'll likeWIZE realize you'd have to
STOP BEIN AN ABUSER and you simply freakin WON'T DO THAT,
on accHOWENT of THAT is your human nature, mike:

"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."

Like a confessor Priest?

"With him, words play no torturing tricks..., "
--John Galsworthy.

Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific
And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Safe Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Critters,
ALL OVER THE WHOWEL WILD WORLD,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual <{): ~ ) >

A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

You GET The Critter You TRAINED

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
and you will know each other.
If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
and what you do not know you will fear.

What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George

"Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
as separate, not the wise.

If any man knows one, he enjoys the fruit of both.

The level which is reached by wisdom
is attained
through right action as well.

He who perceives that the two are one knows the truth."

"Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
indeed all creatures act according to their natures.

What is the use of compulsion then?

The love and hate which are aroused
by the objects of sense arise from Nature,
do not yield to them.
They only obstruct the path," -
- Bhagavad Gita, adapted by
Krishna with permission from
His FREE copy of The Puppy
Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method manual <{) ; ~ )

The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME Is the Perfect Synergy Of
Love, Pride, Desire, Shame, Greed, Ego, Fear,
Hate, Reflex, Self Will,
Arrogance, Ignorance, Predjudice, Cowardice,
Disbelief, Jealousy, Embarrassment, Embellishment,
Guilt, Anger, Hopelessness, Helplesness,
Aversion, Attraction, Inhibition, Revulsion, Repulsion,
Change, Permanence, Enlightenment, Insult, Attrition,
And
Parental / ReligiHOWES / Societal Conditioning.

YOU ARE THE CRITTER YOU WAS TRAINED.

It Is The Perfect Fusion Of The Word..., In The Physical.

"Neurotics complain of their illness, but they make
the most of it, and when it comes to talking it away
from them they will defend it like a lioness her young,"
Sigmund Freud.