Re: Tall Fescue Lawn Question

[No One]

Chet Hayes wrote:
> Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message
news:<20040630205234.663$tO@newsreader.com>...
> > newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
> > > On 30 Jun 2004 09:19:27 -0700, "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > >I'm sorry i meant to add seed to the existing lawn not
completely redo
> > > >the lawn.
> > > >
> > > >No One wrote:
> > > >> I read at various places to not put tall fescue seed in a
kentucky
> > > >> bluegrass lawn. My question is this: I think I have a lawn
filled
> > > >> with K31 tall fescue. Is ok to reseed it with a newer variety
or
> > > >> should I stick to K31 for a more uniform appearance?
> > > >> Thanks.
> > >
> > > Why don't put tall fescue with blue grass? I purchase a blend
for
> > > overseeding that has both mixed together. Am I doing something
wrong?
> > >
> > Nope, they sell them blended for seeding. I've used tons..the more
blue
> > you add, the more it costs. Tall Fescue doesn't spread much..one
seed =
> > one plant..sorta.
>
>
>
>
> The issue with mixing kentucky blue grass and tall fescue is that as
> Peter pointed out, tall fescue is a larger blade grass and grows
> faster, tending to crowd out the blue grass. However, there are
newer
> varieties of tall fescue like Duster or Montauk, that have finer
> blades and are slower growing. Those should be better at blending
> with blue grass.

Which brings me back to my original question. Will the old tall fescue
K31 do the same thing to the newer tall fescue? Thanks.

[Steveo]

"No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com> wrote:
> Chet Hayes wrote:
> > Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<20040630205234.663$tO@newsreader.com>...
> > > newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
> > > > On 30 Jun 2004 09:19:27 -0700, "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I'm sorry i meant to add seed to the existing lawn not
> completely redo
> > > > >the lawn.
> > > > >
> > > > >No One wrote:
> > > > >> I read at various places to not put tall fescue seed in a
> kentucky
> > > > >> bluegrass lawn. My question is this: I think I have a lawn
> filled
> > > > >> with K31 tall fescue. Is ok to reseed it with a newer variety
> or
> > > > >> should I stick to K31 for a more uniform appearance?
> > > > >> Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Why don't put tall fescue with blue grass? I purchase a blend
> for
> > > > overseeding that has both mixed together. Am I doing something
> wrong?
> > > >
> > > Nope, they sell them blended for seeding. I've used tons..the more
> blue
> > > you add, the more it costs. Tall Fescue doesn't spread much..one
> seed =
> > > one plant..sorta.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The issue with mixing kentucky blue grass and tall fescue is that as
> > Peter pointed out, tall fescue is a larger blade grass and grows
> > faster, tending to crowd out the blue grass. However, there are
> newer
> > varieties of tall fescue like Duster or Montauk, that have finer
> > blades and are slower growing. Those should be better at blending
> > with blue grass.
>
> Which brings me back to my original question. Will the old tall fescue
> K31 do the same thing to the newer tall fescue? Thanks.
>
Yes, I'd kill it first, and then plant a turf type tall fescue/blue blend.

Fall is -great- for that.

[Steveo]

"No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com> wrote:
> Chet Hayes wrote:
> > Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<20040630205234.663$tO@newsreader.com>...
> > > newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
> > > > On 30 Jun 2004 09:19:27 -0700, "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I'm sorry i meant to add seed to the existing lawn not
> completely redo
> > > > >the lawn.
> > > > >
> > > > >No One wrote:
> > > > >> I read at various places to not put tall fescue seed in a
> kentucky
> > > > >> bluegrass lawn. My question is this: I think I have a lawn
> filled
> > > > >> with K31 tall fescue. Is ok to reseed it with a newer variety
> or
> > > > >> should I stick to K31 for a more uniform appearance?
> > > > >> Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Why don't put tall fescue with blue grass? I purchase a blend
> for
> > > > overseeding that has both mixed together. Am I doing something
> wrong?
> > > >
> > > Nope, they sell them blended for seeding. I've used tons..the more
> blue
> > > you add, the more it costs. Tall Fescue doesn't spread much..one
> seed =
> > > one plant..sorta.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The issue with mixing kentucky blue grass and tall fescue is that as
> > Peter pointed out, tall fescue is a larger blade grass and grows
> > faster, tending to crowd out the blue grass. However, there are
> newer
> > varieties of tall fescue like Duster or Montauk, that have finer
> > blades and are slower growing. Those should be better at blending
> > with blue grass.
>
> Which brings me back to my original question. Will the old tall fescue
> K31 do the same thing to the newer tall fescue? Thanks.
>
Yes, I'd kill it first, and then plant a turf type tall fescue/blue blend.

Fall is -great- for that.

[Steveo]

"No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com> wrote:
> Chet Hayes wrote:
> > Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<20040630205234.663$tO@newsreader.com>...
> > > newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
> > > > On 30 Jun 2004 09:19:27 -0700, "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I'm sorry i meant to add seed to the existing lawn not
> completely redo
> > > > >the lawn.
> > > > >
> > > > >No One wrote:
> > > > >> I read at various places to not put tall fescue seed in a
> kentucky
> > > > >> bluegrass lawn. My question is this: I think I have a lawn
> filled
> > > > >> with K31 tall fescue. Is ok to reseed it with a newer variety
> or
> > > > >> should I stick to K31 for a more uniform appearance?
> > > > >> Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Why don't put tall fescue with blue grass? I purchase a blend
> for
> > > > overseeding that has both mixed together. Am I doing something
> wrong?
> > > >
> > > Nope, they sell them blended for seeding. I've used tons..the more
> blue
> > > you add, the more it costs. Tall Fescue doesn't spread much..one
> seed =
> > > one plant..sorta.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The issue with mixing kentucky blue grass and tall fescue is that as
> > Peter pointed out, tall fescue is a larger blade grass and grows
> > faster, tending to crowd out the blue grass. However, there are
> newer
> > varieties of tall fescue like Duster or Montauk, that have finer
> > blades and are slower growing. Those should be better at blending
> > with blue grass.
>
> Which brings me back to my original question. Will the old tall fescue
> K31 do the same thing to the newer tall fescue? Thanks.
>
Yes, I'd kill it first, and then plant a turf type tall fescue/blue blend.

Fall is -great- for that.

[Steveo]

"No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com> wrote:
> Chet Hayes wrote:
> > Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<20040630205234.663$tO@newsreader.com>...
> > > newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
> > > > On 30 Jun 2004 09:19:27 -0700, "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I'm sorry i meant to add seed to the existing lawn not
> completely redo
> > > > >the lawn.
> > > > >
> > > > >No One wrote:
> > > > >> I read at various places to not put tall fescue seed in a
> kentucky
> > > > >> bluegrass lawn. My question is this: I think I have a lawn
> filled
> > > > >> with K31 tall fescue. Is ok to reseed it with a newer variety
> or
> > > > >> should I stick to K31 for a more uniform appearance?
> > > > >> Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Why don't put tall fescue with blue grass? I purchase a blend
> for
> > > > overseeding that has both mixed together. Am I doing something
> wrong?
> > > >
> > > Nope, they sell them blended for seeding. I've used tons..the more
> blue
> > > you add, the more it costs. Tall Fescue doesn't spread much..one
> seed =
> > > one plant..sorta.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The issue with mixing kentucky blue grass and tall fescue is that as
> > Peter pointed out, tall fescue is a larger blade grass and grows
> > faster, tending to crowd out the blue grass. However, there are
> newer
> > varieties of tall fescue like Duster or Montauk, that have finer
> > blades and are slower growing. Those should be better at blending
> > with blue grass.
>
> Which brings me back to my original question. Will the old tall fescue
> K31 do the same thing to the newer tall fescue? Thanks.
>
Yes, I'd kill it first, and then plant a turf type tall fescue/blue blend.

Fall is -great- for that.

[Chet Hayes]

Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message news:<20040701144241.613$9p@newsreader.com>...
> "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com> wrote:
> > Chet Hayes wrote:
> > > Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<20040630205234.663$tO@newsreader.com>...
> > > > newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
> > > > > On 30 Jun 2004 09:19:27 -0700, "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I'm sorry i meant to add seed to the existing lawn not
> completely redo
> > > > > >the lawn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >No One wrote:
> > > > > >> I read at various places to not put tall fescue seed in a
> kentucky
> > > > > >> bluegrass lawn. My question is this: I think I have a lawn
> filled
> > > > > >> with K31 tall fescue. Is ok to reseed it with a newer variety
> or
> > > > > >> should I stick to K31 for a more uniform appearance?
> > > > > >> Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why don't put tall fescue with blue grass? I purchase a blend
> for
> > > > > overseeding that has both mixed together. Am I doing something
> wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > Nope, they sell them blended for seeding. I've used tons..the more
> blue
> > > > you add, the more it costs. Tall Fescue doesn't spread much..one
> seed =
> > > > one plant..sorta.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The issue with mixing kentucky blue grass and tall fescue is that as
> > > Peter pointed out, tall fescue is a larger blade grass and grows
> > > faster, tending to crowd out the blue grass. However, there are
> newer
> > > varieties of tall fescue like Duster or Montauk, that have finer
> > > blades and are slower growing. Those should be better at blending
> > > with blue grass.
> >
> > Which brings me back to my original question. Will the old tall fescue
> > K31 do the same thing to the newer tall fescue? Thanks.
> >
> Yes, I'd kill it first, and then plant a turf type tall fescue/blue blend.
>
> Fall is -great- for that.


It all depends what you like and what you are trying to do. K31 is a
coarser tall fescue, but I don;t think it will crowd out one of the
newer finer blade varieties because they are still similar grasses.
If you are satisfied with how your lawn looks, but want to fill in
areas, thicken it, then you can probably overseed with one of the
newer tall fescues or just use K31. I wouldn't use the newer one in
an area like one big empty spot without K31 too, because then you will
likely notice a difference.

If you want a different, finer look, better color, less mowing,
disease/insect resistance, etc, then killing it and starting over is
the way to go.

Along the way, I'd test the soil and make sure you have the right PH,
etc. I'd use a slice seeder and wait till fall.

[Chet Hayes]

Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message news:<20040701144241.613$9p@newsreader.com>...
> "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com> wrote:
> > Chet Hayes wrote:
> > > Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<20040630205234.663$tO@newsreader.com>...
> > > > newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
> > > > > On 30 Jun 2004 09:19:27 -0700, "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I'm sorry i meant to add seed to the existing lawn not
> completely redo
> > > > > >the lawn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >No One wrote:
> > > > > >> I read at various places to not put tall fescue seed in a
> kentucky
> > > > > >> bluegrass lawn. My question is this: I think I have a lawn
> filled
> > > > > >> with K31 tall fescue. Is ok to reseed it with a newer variety
> or
> > > > > >> should I stick to K31 for a more uniform appearance?
> > > > > >> Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why don't put tall fescue with blue grass? I purchase a blend
> for
> > > > > overseeding that has both mixed together. Am I doing something
> wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > Nope, they sell them blended for seeding. I've used tons..the more
> blue
> > > > you add, the more it costs. Tall Fescue doesn't spread much..one
> seed =
> > > > one plant..sorta.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The issue with mixing kentucky blue grass and tall fescue is that as
> > > Peter pointed out, tall fescue is a larger blade grass and grows
> > > faster, tending to crowd out the blue grass. However, there are
> newer
> > > varieties of tall fescue like Duster or Montauk, that have finer
> > > blades and are slower growing. Those should be better at blending
> > > with blue grass.
> >
> > Which brings me back to my original question. Will the old tall fescue
> > K31 do the same thing to the newer tall fescue? Thanks.
> >
> Yes, I'd kill it first, and then plant a turf type tall fescue/blue blend.
>
> Fall is -great- for that.


It all depends what you like and what you are trying to do. K31 is a
coarser tall fescue, but I don;t think it will crowd out one of the
newer finer blade varieties because they are still similar grasses.
If you are satisfied with how your lawn looks, but want to fill in
areas, thicken it, then you can probably overseed with one of the
newer tall fescues or just use K31. I wouldn't use the newer one in
an area like one big empty spot without K31 too, because then you will
likely notice a difference.

If you want a different, finer look, better color, less mowing,
disease/insect resistance, etc, then killing it and starting over is
the way to go.

Along the way, I'd test the soil and make sure you have the right PH,
etc. I'd use a slice seeder and wait till fall.

[Chet Hayes]

Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message news:<20040701144241.613$9p@newsreader.com>...
> "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com> wrote:
> > Chet Hayes wrote:
> > > Steveo <moparholic@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<20040630205234.663$tO@newsreader.com>...
> > > > newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
> > > > > On 30 Jun 2004 09:19:27 -0700, "No One" <forgetyou@dodgeit.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I'm sorry i meant to add seed to the existing lawn not
> completely redo
> > > > > >the lawn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >No One wrote:
> > > > > >> I read at various places to not put tall fescue seed in a
> kentucky
> > > > > >> bluegrass lawn. My question is this: I think I have a lawn
> filled
> > > > > >> with K31 tall fescue. Is ok to reseed it with a newer variety
> or
> > > > > >> should I stick to K31 for a more uniform appearance?
> > > > > >> Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why don't put tall fescue with blue grass? I purchase a blend
> for
> > > > > overseeding that has both mixed together. Am I doing something
> wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > Nope, they sell them blended for seeding. I've used tons..the more
> blue
> > > > you add, the more it costs. Tall Fescue doesn't spread much..one
> seed =
> > > > one plant..sorta.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The issue with mixing kentucky blue grass and tall fescue is that as
> > > Peter pointed out, tall fescue is a larger blade grass and grows
> > > faster, tending to crowd out the blue grass. However, there are
> newer
> > > varieties of tall fescue like Duster or Montauk, that have finer
> > > blades and are slower growing. Those should be better at blending
> > > with blue grass.
> >
> > Which brings me back to my original question. Will the old tall fescue
> > K31 do the same thing to the newer tall fescue? Thanks.
> >
> Yes, I'd kill it first, and then plant a turf type tall fescue/blue blend.
>
> Fall is -great- for that.


It all depends what you like and what you are trying to do. K31 is a
coarser tall fescue, but I don;t think it will crowd out one of the
newer finer blade varieties because they are still similar grasses.
If you are satisfied with how your lawn looks, but want to fill in
areas, thicken it, then you can probably overseed with one of the
newer tall fescues or just use K31. I wouldn't use the newer one in
an area like one big empty spot without K31 too, because then you will
likely notice a difference.

If you want a different, finer look, better color, less mowing,
disease/insect resistance, etc, then killing it and starting over is
the way to go.

Along the way, I'd test the soil and make sure you have the right PH,
etc. I'd use a slice seeder and wait till fall.