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Lloyd Randall
06-08-2005, 07:59 PM
In article <slrnbvlul7.hi7.jamie@bozo2.local.net>,
jamie@sure.spam-me-silly.net (jamie) wrote:

>
> If the stain is indeed tomato sauce, that's one of the types of stain
> that OxyClean is especially good at removing.

Where's DrClean? The bleach in Oxyclean is hydrogen peroxide. I think
he would say that for a spot, the most efficient approach is to wet it
with a drop of ammonia, then apply a drop of peroxide.
>
> I find a few hours soak in a hot OxiClean solution as effective as
> washing with chlorine bleach, without rotting the material like bleach.
> It got all kinds of old food stains out of the kitchen dish towels that
> chlorine bleach never did, too.
>
> I use more than one scoop in a large load of whites, though, 3 or 4,
> and detergent, and let it agitate a couple of minutes to mix before I
> shut it off for 4 hours (or all day if I throw them in before work).
> My underwear and socks nearly glow in the dark, and don't rot out in
> 6 months like they did with chlorine bleach. The large bucket of
> OxiClean from Sams cost me around $11 and lasts me about a year in a
> 2-person family, mainly used for washing the whites.

Chlorine bleach in swimming pools has a reputation for rotting swim
suits, but suits deteriorate just as fast in pools with non-chlorine
disinfectants. So when chlorine bleach is used properly in a pool, it's
no harsher than other bleaches.

I can think of two possible reasons for trouble with chlorine bleach.
One is that perhaps there is more bleach than in the Oxyclean solution
you use.

The other is that unless chlorine bleach is buffered or very dilute, the
pH can be very high. A high pH alters some dyes and can rot fibers,
especially silk, wool, and nylon. A high pH also inhibits the bleaching
action of chlorine bleach.

The pH of your detergent would affect how well chlorine bleach works and
how much damage it does. That could explain why some people have better
luck than others.

Typically, a cup of chlorine bleach is recommended per load. An old
trick is to use half a cup of bleach and half a cup of baking soda. The
baking soda buffers the wash water to make the bleach gentler on fibers
and colors and tougher on stains and germs.

If I have stuff that needs bleaching, I bleach it in a bucket after it's
washed. This means I can wash stuff that should be bleached with stuff
that shouldn't. Washing the bleachable stuff first removes organic
material that would neutralize bleach.

I bleach in a bucket of water with a little bleach and a little baking
soda. It doesn't take much, maybe a tablespoon of each, and it takes
less than an hour. The solution rinses out easily.

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Best Regards,
Lloyd

Phisherman
06-08-2005, 07:59 PM
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:19:42 -0500, Turandot <qqqq@pppp.net> wrote:

>jamie@sure.spam-me-silly.net wrote:
>> cvcgrad <cvcgrad@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > The shirt is 100% cotton.
>> >
>> > I realize that Clorox is chlorine bleach; however, my experience is that
>> > chlorine bleach is more effective on white clothes than non-chlorine bleach.
>>
>> If the stain is indeed tomato sauce, that's one of the types of stain
>> that OxyClean is especially good at removing.
>>
>> I find a few hours soak in a hot OxiClean solution as effective as
>> washing with chlorine bleach, without rotting the material like bleach.
>> It got all kinds of old food stains out of the kitchen dish towels that
>> chlorine bleach never did, too.
>>
>> I use more than one scoop in a large load of whites, though, 3 or 4,
>> and detergent, and let it agitate a couple of minutes to mix before I
>> shut it off for 4 hours (or all day if I throw them in before work).
>> My underwear and socks nearly glow in the dark, and don't rot out in
>> 6 months like they did with chlorine bleach. The large bucket of
>> OxiClean from Sams cost me around $11 and lasts me about a year in a
>> 2-person family, mainly used for washing the whites.
>
>Thank you for posting this, Jamie. After reading so many negative comments on
>USENET about OxyClean (and from two friends who have used it) I was convinced that
>it wasn't worth the money. This is the first time I hear it needs to soak for a
>few hours to be effective. I would like to give it a try. I own a front loading
>washer, that means I will have to soak the whites in a bucket and then transfer to
>the washer. A bit messy but if it works better than bleach...


The stain should come out in 10-20 minutes with a hot OxiClean
mixture. If it fades the stain, but does not remove it, repeat with
a second application of hot OxiClean. Use very hot water (1/4 full
container) being careful when you add the OxiClean--it will suddenly
foam up. Just adding the OxiClean to the wash does not do much good.
If this does not work, I have another idea. Also, there's nothing
special about OxiClean, Clorox (and other companies) make very similar
granulated oxygen products that are just as good.

Scout Lady
06-08-2005, 07:59 PM
"Turandot" <qqqq@pppp.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a64d45019be5b4698975e@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> jamie@sure.spam-me-silly.net wrote:
> > cvcgrad <cvcgrad@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > The shirt is 100% cotton.
> > >
> > > I realize that Clorox is chlorine bleach; however, my experience is
that
> > > chlorine bleach is more effective on white clothes than non-chlorine
bleach.
> >
> > If the stain is indeed tomato sauce, that's one of the types of stain
> > that OxyClean is especially good at removing.
> >
> > I find a few hours soak in a hot OxiClean solution as effective as
> > washing with chlorine bleach, without rotting the material like bleach.
> > It got all kinds of old food stains out of the kitchen dish towels that
> > chlorine bleach never did, too.
> >
> > I use more than one scoop in a large load of whites, though, 3 or 4,
> > and detergent, and let it agitate a couple of minutes to mix before I
> > shut it off for 4 hours (or all day if I throw them in before work).
> > My underwear and socks nearly glow in the dark, and don't rot out in
> > 6 months like they did with chlorine bleach. The large bucket of
> > OxiClean from Sams cost me around $11 and lasts me about a year in a
> > 2-person family, mainly used for washing the whites.
>
> Thank you for posting this, Jamie. After reading so many negative comments
on
> USENET about OxyClean (and from two friends who have used it) I was
convinced that
> it wasn't worth the money. This is the first time I hear it needs to soak
for a
> few hours to be effective. I would like to give it a try. I own a front
loading
> washer, that means I will have to soak the whites in a bucket and then
transfer to
> the washer. A bit messy but if it works better than bleach...

OxyClean is worth its weight in gold. My dog wet on white carpet and nothing
would remove the stain. I made up a solution of oxyclean with 1 tablespoon
of chlorine bleach (boy did it foam) and saturated the spot with it leaving
it overnight. The next morning I used my little green machine with a little
hot water and more oxyclean and the stain was completely removed.


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sijka
06-08-2005, 07:59 PM
I combine Oxyclean and Tide-with Bleach alternative and soak--Don't use too
much of either product and you'll really like the results!!

Sijka
"Turandot" <qqqq@pppp.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a64d45019be5b4698975e@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> jamie@sure.spam-me-silly.net wrote:
> > cvcgrad <cvcgrad@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > The shirt is 100% cotton.
> > >
> > > I realize that Clorox is chlorine bleach; however, my experience is
that
> > > chlorine bleach is more effective on white clothes than non-chlorine
bleach.
> >
> > If the stain is indeed tomato sauce, that's one of the types of stain
> > that OxyClean is especially good at removing.
> >
> > I find a few hours soak in a hot OxiClean solution as effective as
> > washing with chlorine bleach, without rotting the material like bleach.
> > It got all kinds of old food stains out of the kitchen dish towels that
> > chlorine bleach never did, too.
> >
> > I use more than one scoop in a large load of whites, though, 3 or 4,
> > and detergent, and let it agitate a couple of minutes to mix before I
> > shut it off for 4 hours (or all day if I throw them in before work).
> > My underwear and socks nearly glow in the dark, and don't rot out in
> > 6 months like they did with chlorine bleach. The large bucket of
> > OxiClean from Sams cost me around $11 and lasts me about a year in a
> > 2-person family, mainly used for washing the whites.
>
> Thank you for posting this, Jamie. After reading so many negative comments
on
> USENET about OxyClean (and from two friends who have used it) I was
convinced that
> it wasn't worth the money. This is the first time I hear it needs to soak
for a
> few hours to be effective. I would like to give it a try. I own a front
loading
> washer, that means I will have to soak the whites in a bucket and then
transfer to
> the washer. A bit messy but if it works better than bleach...

Melba's Jammin'
06-08-2005, 07:59 PM
In article <eJrKb.56884$fq1.29364@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>, "sijka"
<thecat@neb.rr.com> wrote:

> I have used "Mary Ellen's Set-In-Stain Remover for Whites" and been very
> happy with the results. It's a bit difficult to find though!

Give them a call:
Mary Ellen Home Care Products
6527 Cecilia Cir
Edina, MN 55439
(952) 941-1233
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