HYLA Air Filter/vacuum

[HumanHighlightFilm]

OK, my wife is planning on talking to a salesperson this weekend who is
going to try and sell her a Hyla Air Filter/Vacuum. She has allergy
problems and thinks this product could be the answer.

I looked at the web site and thought the science behind the product (a
water-bath filtration system) looked a little dubious. There was also no
mention of HEPA or a CADR measure, and apparently no certification. I smell
a scam. Anybody have any experience with this product?

[Vox Humana]

"HumanHighlightFilm" <bryantruitt@snotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OK, my wife is planning on talking to a salesperson this weekend who is
> going to try and sell her a Hyla Air Filter/Vacuum. She has allergy
> problems and thinks this product could be the answer.
>
> I looked at the web site and thought the science behind the product (a
> water-bath filtration system) looked a little dubious. There was also no
> mention of HEPA or a CADR measure, and apparently no certification. I
smell
> a scam. Anybody have any experience with this product?


I don't have any experience with the product, but common sense tells me that
trying to solve allergy problems with a vacuum cleaner doesn't make sense.
First of all, about any run of the mill sweeper has a HEPA filter these
days. At that, even if the vacuum is great, how much good will it do
running a vacuum cleaner for 10 minutes a day?

If your wife has serious allergy problems, then the first thing I would do
would be to take up the carpeting. There is no vacuum on earth that will
turn a carpeted home into an allergy friendly place. If you can't do the
whole house, start with the bedroom. There are many choices in hard
surfaces for your floors including inexpensive, DIY laminates that are easy
to clean and don't support microbes or serve as a reservoir for allergens.
Filtration is a good idea, but not with a vacuum cleaner. Install a
high-effect filter or an electronic air cleaner in you furnace and run the
fan 24/7. Short of that, get some portable electronic air cleaners for
rooms where you spend a lot of time. You might consider a UVC light for
your furnace. It sits above the AC coil and prevents molds from growing on
the coil. It also kills some bacteria and viruses. That keeps your furnace
from spewing out mold and makes your AC more efficient. You might consider
investing in some bedding that encapsulates the pillows and mattress.
Bedding is also a source of allergens and harbors dust mites.

Frankly, I would call the salesperson and cancel the appointment. These
people are paid 100% on commission. The prices they charge for their goods
are many times what the product is worth. What's more, if you have a
problem you are screwed. The way these things work is that the sales person
(who you will never see again) is the distributor and is responsible for
customer service. When they decide to sell Tupperware or aluminum siding,
you will have nowhere to turn for help. You could end-up with a piece of
equipment that you can't find parts of filters for. They will try to get
you spend $2500 for a $250 machine and finance it at 27% for five years.
The salesperson will come to your home and you will either have to spend a
fortune or physically eject them to get them out of the house. These things
often become ugly.

If you want to spend some money on a decent vacuum, find a local dealer that
sells Miele. They are good, if pricey, machines that are sold through
reputable dealers instead of huckster. Lowe's even carries a few models
now. http://www.miele.com/ If you do keep the appointment, be aware that
there is a slightly used Hyla vac on Ebay right now with a high bid of $350
and a couple of days to go. I wouldn't pay more than $400 for a new one
from the huckster. You can get a Miele for that and spend the rest on
addressing the real problems - the carpeting, bedding, and air filtration
system in you home.

[HumanHighlightFilm]

Thanks for your input.


"Vox Humana" <vhumana@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "HumanHighlightFilm" <bryantruitt@snotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1027kgbco8qse2e@corp.supernews.com...
> > OK, my wife is planning on talking to a salesperson this weekend who is
> > going to try and sell her a Hyla Air Filter/Vacuum. She has allergy
> > problems and thinks this product could be the answer.
> >
> > I looked at the web site and thought the science behind the product (a
> > water-bath filtration system) looked a little dubious. There was also
no
> > mention of HEPA or a CADR measure, and apparently no certification. I
> smell
> > a scam. Anybody have any experience with this product?
>
>
> I don't have any experience with the product, but common sense tells me
that
> trying to solve allergy problems with a vacuum cleaner doesn't make sense.
> First of all, about any run of the mill sweeper has a HEPA filter these
> days. At that, even if the vacuum is great, how much good will it do
> running a vacuum cleaner for 10 minutes a day?
>
> If your wife has serious allergy problems, then the first thing I would do
> would be to take up the carpeting. There is no vacuum on earth that will
> turn a carpeted home into an allergy friendly place. If you can't do the
> whole house, start with the bedroom. There are many choices in hard
> surfaces for your floors including inexpensive, DIY laminates that are
easy
> to clean and don't support microbes or serve as a reservoir for allergens.
> Filtration is a good idea, but not with a vacuum cleaner. Install a
> high-effect filter or an electronic air cleaner in you furnace and run the
> fan 24/7. Short of that, get some portable electronic air cleaners for
> rooms where you spend a lot of time. You might consider a UVC light for
> your furnace. It sits above the AC coil and prevents molds from growing
on
> the coil. It also kills some bacteria and viruses. That keeps your
furnace
> from spewing out mold and makes your AC more efficient. You might consider
> investing in some bedding that encapsulates the pillows and mattress.
> Bedding is also a source of allergens and harbors dust mites.
>
> Frankly, I would call the salesperson and cancel the appointment. These
> people are paid 100% on commission. The prices they charge for their
goods
> are many times what the product is worth. What's more, if you have a
> problem you are screwed. The way these things work is that the sales
person
> (who you will never see again) is the distributor and is responsible for
> customer service. When they decide to sell Tupperware or aluminum siding,
> you will have nowhere to turn for help. You could end-up with a piece of
> equipment that you can't find parts of filters for. They will try to get
> you spend $2500 for a $250 machine and finance it at 27% for five years.
> The salesperson will come to your home and you will either have to spend a
> fortune or physically eject them to get them out of the house. These
things
> often become ugly.
>
> If you want to spend some money on a decent vacuum, find a local dealer
that
> sells Miele. They are good, if pricey, machines that are sold through
> reputable dealers instead of huckster. Lowe's even carries a few models
> now. http://www.miele.com/ If you do keep the appointment, be aware that
> there is a slightly used Hyla vac on Ebay right now with a high bid of
$350
> and a couple of days to go. I wouldn't pay more than $400 for a new one
> from the huckster. You can get a Miele for that and spend the rest on
> addressing the real problems - the carpeting, bedding, and air filtration
> system in you home.
>
>

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[Derick06]

Wow!

It is good to see so many people taking initiative and giving us a good info on air filters. Thanks a lot for sharing it.

The best air filter that can be helpful to control the factors affecting asthma and allergies is the mechanical filter called high efficiency particulate air or HEPA. The device can capture 90% of all the particles that enter it. In order to get high rate of efficiency home cleaner like HEPA, the mesh should be replaced annually. You can have it built in your home’s air handling system so that you will save space. You can ask the company for the specific substances that the filtration system remove from the air. Another is the demonstration in cleaning the filter and the noise the filter produces.

[jehoch2]

OK, my wife is planning on talking to a salesperson this weekend who is
going to try and sell her a Hyla Air Filter/Vacuum. She has allergy
problems and thinks this product could be the answer.

I looked at the web site and thought the science behind the product (a
water-bath filtration system) looked a little dubious. There was also no
mention of HEPA or a CADR measure, and apparently no certification. I smell
a scam. Anybody have any experience with this product?

I bought a hyla air filter Vacuum 5 months ago. I am chemical sensitive and in addition discovered black mold in my house which was making me and my room mate both very sick. I tried airpurifiers with ozone, which made me sick. I tried a couple others too, which made me sick. The hyla lets you put salt into the water which is very good for allergies and asthma. It is one of my best friends right now. Water is a natural filter. I will gladly replace that water as needed. I have never seen a vaccum that will vacuum the carpet as easily and good as the hyla. It is actually restoring my carpet making it look newer. I would recommend this baby to anybody. It was designed with german technology, and is manufactured in korea.

[jehoch2]

Wow!

It is good to see so many people taking initiative and giving us a good info on air filters. Thanks a lot for sharing it.

The best air filter that can be helpful to control the factors affecting asthma and allergies is the mechanical filter called high efficiency particulate air or HEPA. The device can capture 90% of all the particles that enter it. In order to get high rate of efficiency home cleaner like HEPA, the mesh should be replaced annually. You can have it built in your home’s air handling system so that you will save space. You can ask the company for the specific substances that the filtration system remove from the air. Another is the demonstration in cleaning the filter and the noise the filter produces.

I am sorry to mention this, but I used to believe that hepa filters were great until I found the hyla and discovered that I do not have to be allergic to vaccums. I am chemical sensitive and also allergic to dust mites and their feces, and will get sick from the formaldahyde that is emitted from hepa filters. Somebody as sensitive as me will be able to tell you what is doing a good job and what is supposed to do a good job. The hyla takes care of me and does not pollute my air like hepa filters do, and the hyla drowns the dustmites, catches their feces in the water, and does not throw them back in my face and make me sick. I take care of my hyla, and will continue to until someone shows me a hepa filter that works better.
You can also add salt to the water if you have allergies. I do this all the time, and it helps a lot. Its like having an ocean climate in my home. I am not a hyla salesman. I am a satisfied customer.

[Kimberlee Evonne]

Hi,

The HYLA works using a unique state-of-the-art water filtration system, forcing the air through a water bath, to trap dust, dirt and bacteria safely, ensuring only fresh, clean air is returned back into the room. Unlike most cleaners, it does not use conventional filters, which can become easily clogged after limited use, allowing small particles of fine dust - such as microscopic common house mite droppings - to pass right through the filter and back into the air we breathe. These are the sort of particles that cause major problems to asthma and allergy sufferers.