Fill washer then add laundry????

[TOM KAN PA]

I wondered why the instructions on every washer I've seen is to fill the washer
with water, THEN add the dirty laundry.
So, I called Whirlpool. They told me that the only way to get the correct
amount of water in the machine is to fill it first.
If you put the clothes in first, then they take up space that should be taken
up by water.
I then asked them if after the wash cycle finishes and the dirty water drains,
and it goes through a spin cycle, should I then remove all the clothes, allow
the machine to fill with the correct amount of rinse water, and then add the
clothes for rinsing.
They told me that no one had ever asked this question before.
They had no answer.

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Mon 03 Jan 2005 10:00:55a, TOM KAN PA tittered and giggled, and giggled
and tittered, and finally blurted out...

> I wondered why the instructions on every washer I've seen is to fill the
> washer with water, THEN add the dirty laundry.
> So, I called Whirlpool. They told me that the only way to get the
> correct amount of water in the machine is to fill it first.
> If you put the clothes in first, then they take up space that should be
> taken up by water.
> I then asked them if after the wash cycle finishes and the dirty water
> drains, and it goes through a spin cycle, should I then remove all the
> clothes, allow the machine to fill with the correct amount of rinse
> water, and then add the clothes for rinsing.
> They told me that no one had ever asked this question before.
> They had no answer.

Probably because once the clothes have been wet in the wash cycle and spun to
eliminate the water, they are (1) still somewhat wet, and (2) considerably
compressed compared to their dry state, thus allowing more water into the
tub.

Just my WAG

Wayne

[Sweep]

"TOM KAN PA" <tomkanpa@aol.comic> wrote in message
news:20050103120055.06270.00001617@mb-m23.aol.com...
> I wondered why the instructions on every washer I've seen is to fill the
washer
> with water, THEN add the dirty laundry.

It's the other way around with mine. Put the washing in, then the water goes
in after, the amount of water depends on the type of load and absorbency of
articles being washed. Rinsing is done until the water runs clear so I
choose what type of rinse, how many rinses depending on how dirty or soapy
the water is.

[Phisherman]

On 03 Jan 2005 17:00:55 GMT, tomkanpa@aol.comic (TOM KAN PA) wrote:

>I wondered why the instructions on every washer I've seen is to fill the washer
>with water, THEN add the dirty laundry.
>So, I called Whirlpool. They told me that the only way to get the correct
>amount of water in the machine is to fill it first.
>If you put the clothes in first, then they take up space that should be taken
>up by water.
>I then asked them if after the wash cycle finishes and the dirty water drains,
>and it goes through a spin cycle, should I then remove all the clothes, allow
>the machine to fill with the correct amount of rinse water, and then add the
>clothes for rinsing.
>They told me that no one had ever asked this question before.
>They had no answer.
>


It makes no sense to wait for the washer to fill. If so, you would
have to deal with the water displacement, plus you lose soaking time.
I fill my washer 1 or 2", add soap, stir to dissolve the soap, then
add clothes as the washer continues to fill. Putting soap directly
onto clothing may damage some fabrics. I would think adding soap
after the washer begins to agitate is another good option. Also,
adding bleach to laundry should only be done when the clothes are
thoroughly wet and in motion.

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Mon 03 Jan 2005 01:15:22p, Sweep tittered and giggled, and giggled and
tittered, and finally blurted out...

>
> "TOM KAN PA" <tomkanpa@aol.comic> wrote in message
> news:20050103120055.06270.00001617@mb-m23.aol.com...
>> I wondered why the instructions on every washer I've seen is to fill
>> the washer with water, THEN add the dirty laundry.
>
> It's the other way around with mine. Put the washing in, then the water
> goes in after, the amount of water depends on the type of load and
> absorbency of articles being washed. Rinsing is done until the water
> runs clear so I choose what type of rinse, how many rinses depending on
> how dirty or soapy the water is.

Curious... How does the washer determine when the water runs clear? Also,
how does it determine the number of rinses?

Or, are you saying that you determine that and run various cycles
accordingly?

Wayne

[Sweep]

"Wayne Boatwright" <wbw@att.net> wrote in message
news:Xns95D3BE72BA895wbwattnet@130.133.1.4...
> On Mon 03 Jan 2005 01:15:22p, Sweep tittered and giggled, and giggled and
> tittered, and finally blurted out...
>
> >
> > "TOM KAN PA" <tomkanpa@aol.comic> wrote in message
> > news:20050103120055.06270.00001617@mb-m23.aol.com...
> >> I wondered why the instructions on every washer I've seen is to fill
> >> the washer with water, THEN add the dirty laundry.
> >
> > It's the other way around with mine. Put the washing in, then the water
> > goes in after, the amount of water depends on the type of load and
> > absorbency of articles being washed. Rinsing is done until the water
> > runs clear so I choose what type of rinse, how many rinses depending on
> > how dirty or soapy the water is.
>
> Curious... How does the washer determine when the water runs clear?
Also,
> how does it determine the number of rinses?
>
> Or, are you saying that you determine that and run various cycles
> accordingly?
yeah, sort of. It does a standard 2 or 3 rinse depending on wash program
and then there's an 'extra rinses' button. If I'm still not satisfied then
I do the 'rinse only' cycle on top.

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Mon 03 Jan 2005 07:25:01p, Sweep tittered and giggled, and giggled and
tittered, and finally blurted out...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" <wbw@att.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns95D3BE72BA895wbwattnet@130.133.1.4...
>> On Mon 03 Jan 2005 01:15:22p, Sweep tittered and giggled, and giggled
>> and tittered, and finally blurted out...
>>
>> >
>> > "TOM KAN PA" <tomkanpa@aol.comic> wrote in message
>> > news:20050103120055.06270.00001617@mb-m23.aol.com...
>> >> I wondered why the instructions on every washer I've seen is to fill
>> >> the washer with water, THEN add the dirty laundry.
>> >
>> > It's the other way around with mine. Put the washing in, then the
>> > water goes in after, the amount of water depends on the type of load
>> > and absorbency of articles being washed. Rinsing is done until the
>> > water runs clear so I choose what type of rinse, how many rinses
>> > depending on how dirty or soapy the water is.
>>
>> Curious... How does the washer determine when the water runs clear?
>> Also, how does it determine the number of rinses?
>>
>> Or, are you saying that you determine that and run various cycles
>> accordingly?
> yeah, sort of. It does a standard 2 or 3 rinse depending on wash
> program and then there's an 'extra rinses' button. If I'm still not
> satisfied then I do the 'rinse only' cycle on top.

Oh, okay. Basically like my machine. I also do extra rinses 'til clear.

Cheers,
Wayne

[Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.]

Considering that the water level in a washing machine is controlled by
a water level switch and associated level setting control if
installed.

Whether you put the clothes in first or last would not affect the
water level to any appreciable amount.
Putting the clothes in first would mean the water shuts off at the
predetermined water level.
Putting them in last, would not normally exceed the high water
overflow level.
Some of these water level sensors work by pressure in a closed column,
which means your water level after filling could vary considerably
depending upon the barametric pressure at the time the unit was
filling and closed off the sensor column so it could make its
measurement.

By the same token, some work totally on a fill time factor.
If your line pressure is 30 psi instead of the nominal 60 psi you may
end up having to use higher water level settings to get the right
amount of water in the drum.

TTUL
Gary