TROLL ALERT! Re: Cleaning an (outdoor) patio canopy

[Barbecue Bob]

In article <d848m9$bbf@dispatch.concentric.net>,
"Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." <raiar@slacc.com.nospam> wrote:

>
> First, we take commercial grade Windex and add 1 cup of Ammonia and spray
> down everything until its saturated and let sit for at least an hour before
> hosing it off, trying to keep it wet with the cleaner for that full hour
> before rinsing.

There is no such product. There is an institutional bottle containing
Windex concentrate. It makes Windex when diluted with nine parts water.
>
>
> As an aside:
> If you have some lawn seating that tends to hold moisture and not dry as
> it should. If you spray these seats or seat backs down with a dilute
> solution
> of liquid dishwashing detergent and let dry, then wipe the detergent off
> the surface with a damp rag, they will be more apt to shed their water and
> not remain damp.
>
Dishwashing detergent is a wetting agent. It kills bugs by preventing
them from shedding water.
--
Barbecue Bob Serving family-style roast bunny
at fine restaurants
from Idaho to New Mexico.

[Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.]

BBQ-BOOB Bastes the Boards Again!

S.C. Johnson manufactures Windex ORIGINAL.
It comes in aerosols, spray bottles, (squarish) gallons and as a concentrate.
The (squarish) gallon jugs are marked Institutional SIZE (NOT Insitutional
GRADE).

However, Johnson Diversey also manufactures Windex, but in higher commercial
strengths.
Windex Commercial Grade (1 gallon white CYLINDER)
Windex Powerized Formula (1 gallon white squarish and cylinder, plus a 5
gallon bag in box dispenser).

At one time, Sam's wholesale sold the Windex Commercial Grade mfg. by Johnson
Diversey, but have switched to the Windex Original mfg. by S.C. Johnson,
quite some time ago.

There is no comparison between the cleaning power of the two manufacturers
products. Windex Original is like water compared to Windex Commercial or
the Windex Powerized Formula.

I know, we've been stuck with Windex Original a few times in the past and
it just don't do the job we need it to do.

TTUL
Gary

[Barbecue Bob]

In article <d89kfq$9g1@dispatch.concentric.net>,
"Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." <raiar@slacc.com.nospam> wrote:

> BBQ-BOOB Bastes the Boards Again!

Is that you, Ranger?

>
> S.C. Johnson manufactures Windex ORIGINAL.
> It comes in aerosols, spray bottles, (squarish) gallons and as a concentrate.
> The (squarish) gallon jugs are marked Institutional SIZE (NOT Insitutional
> GRADE).
>
> However, Johnson Diversey also manufactures Windex, but in higher commercial
> strengths.

As of 2003 it was Drackett Division of S C Johnson. They've changed the
name a little.

> Windex Commercial Grade (1 gallon white CYLINDER)
> Windex Powerized Formula (1 gallon white squarish and cylinder, plus a 5
> gallon bag in box dispenser).

According to Johnson Diversey's website it' all Windex Powerized
Formula. Like other Windex, it's about 95% water. What you call
Commercial Grade is the concentrate.

Powerized Formula is also sold for household use. As of two years ago,
Original Windex contained isopropyl while Powerized Windex contained
ammonia. This new stuff contains both, but it no longer contains
2butoxethanol.
>
> At one time, Sam's wholesale sold the Windex Commercial Grade mfg. by Johnson
> Diversey, but have switched to the Windex Original mfg. by S.C. Johnson,
> quite some time ago.

Quite some time ago? Johnson Diversey didn't exist until 37 months ago.
It didn't take over Drackett's Windex until November of 2002.
>
> There is no comparison between the cleaning power of the two manufacturers
> products. Windex Original is like water compared to Windex Commercial or
> the Windex Powerized Formula.
>
> I know, we've been stuck with Windex Original a few times in the past and
> it just don't do the job we need it to do.
>

Unless FH or Marcey has contacted you about a rendezvous at Sam's Club,
your trolling isn't doing the job you need it to do.
--
Barbecue Bob Serving family-style roast bunny
at fine restaurants
from Idaho to New Mexico.

[Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.]

>> BBQ-BOOB Bastes the Boards Again!
>
>Is that you, Ranger?

Say what? I've never used anything except my real name in the newsgroups.


>As of 2003 it was Drackett Division of S C Johnson. They've changed the

>name a little.

Yep!

>According to Johnson Diversey's website it' all Windex Powerized
>Formula. Like other Windex, it's about 95% water. What you call
>Commercial Grade is the concentrate.

Yep on the WATER.
NOPE on the Concentrate.
I do see where the Commercial Grade has been discontinued, probably since
they came out with the Powerized Formula, looks like the same stuff to me.

>Powerized Formula is also sold for household use. As of two years ago,


I only buy the stuff in gallons, so don't know if they are packaging it in
smaller containers or not and don't care.

>Original Windex contained isopropyl while Powerized Windex contained
>ammonia. This new stuff contains both, but it no longer contains
>2butoxethanol.

I didn't care what was in it, as long as it worked for the purpose we were
using it for.

>Quite some time ago? Johnson Diversey didn't exist until 37 months ago.

Correct, but if I said Drackett's Windex it would have been more confusing.

>Unless FH or Marcey has contacted you about a rendezvous at Sam's Club,

>your trolling isn't doing the job you need it to do.

I wasn't trolling for anything, just stating the facts.

TTUL
Gary

[Barbecue Bob]

In article <d8eohd$p4u@dispatch.concentric.net>,
"Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." <raiar@slacc.com.nospam> wrote:

> >> BBQ-BOOB Bastes the Boards Again!
> >
> >Is that you, Ranger?
>
> Say what? I've never used anything except my real name in the newsgroups.
>
>
But you ridicule me and my fine restaurant chain by altering my name.

> >According to Johnson Diversey's website it' all Windex Powerized
> >Formula. Like other Windex, it's about 95% water. What you call
> >Commercial Grade is the concentrate.
>
> Yep on the WATER.
> NOPE on the Concentrate.
> I do see where the Commercial Grade has been discontinued, probably since
> they came out with the Powerized Formula, looks like the same stuff to me.

Can you show documentation that Johnson Diversey ever made anything
called Windex Commercial Grade?
>
> >Powerized Formula is also sold for household use. As of two years ago,
>
>
> I only buy the stuff in gallons, so don't know if they are packaging it in
> smaller containers or not and don't care.

You urge our fine readers to buy your favorite product but don't care to
find out what it's called or how it's sold?

>
> >Original Windex contained isopropyl while Powerized Windex contained
> >ammonia. This new stuff contains both, but it no longer contains
> >2butoxethanol.
>
> I didn't care what was in it, as long as it worked for the purpose we were
> using it for.
>
> >Quite some time ago? Johnson Diversey didn't exist until 37 months ago.
>
> Correct, but if I said Drackett's Windex it would have been more confusing.
>
> >Unless FH or Marcey has contacted you about a rendezvous at Sam's Club,
>
> >your trolling isn't doing the job you need it to do.
>
> I wasn't trolling for anything, just stating the facts.
>

Facts?
You don't care what's in it, what the product name is, or what size
container we should look for, and you deliberately told us the wrong
manufacturer.
--
Barbecue Bob Serving family-style roast bunny
at fine restaurants
from Idaho to New Mexico.

[FH]

in article d8eohd$p4u@dispatch.concentric.net, Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. at
raiar@slacc.com.nospam wrote on 6/11/05 9:21 AM:

>
> I wasn't trolling for anything, just stating the facts.
>
> TTUL
> Gary
>
Whink! At Sam's Club.

[The Ranger]

Barbecue Bob <mountain@time.orgg> whined at Gary through message
news:mountain-090235.11473411062005@corp-radius.supernews.com...
> > > > BBQ-BOOB Bastes the Boards Again!
> > >
> > > Is that you, Ranger?
> > >
> > Say what? I've never used anything except my real name
> > in the newsgroups.
> >
> But you ridicule me and my fine restaurant chain by altering
> my name.

Bubba Booby, Bubba-booby, Bubba...

I see you're poaching the corporate koi again while enjoying the
after-affects of licking cockroach rears you catch when they scamper
across your food. Throw it back. Koi are supposed to eat from your hand.

ObBBQBoob: "Stupid is as stupid does."

The Ranger
---
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?
So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of
the universe."
-+-+-+- Marcus, 'A Late Delivery From Avalon', Babylon 5

[Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.]

Barbecue Bob <mountain@time.orgg> wrote:

>But you ridicule me and my fine restaurant chain by altering my name.

If the Shoe Fits!

>Can you show documentation that Johnson Diversey ever made anything
>called Windex Commercial Grade?

Why would I have to, I never made such a statement!

We used Windex Commercial Grade for about 4 years and that was at least 6
or more years ago.
I don't remember WHO made it, other than it was Windex Commercial Grade and
it worked.
I would venture to guess it was probably Drackett since they were the only
other manufacturer of products under the Windex name.

>You urge our fine readers to buy your favorite product but don't care to

>find out what it's called or how it's sold?

I wouldn't say it was my FAVORITE product, but of what is easily available
to consumers, I was pointing out that Windex ORIGINAL is NOT the same Windex
we used that worked.

>Facts?
>You don't care what's in it, what the product name is, or what size
>container we should look for, and you deliberately told us the wrong
>manufacturer.

No I did NOT, Johnson Diversey is who makes the Windex that WORKS!
S. C. Johnson is who makes the Windex Original.

Gary